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View Poll Results: Is Mariano Rivera among the top 10 pitchers of all time
Yes 52 14.17%
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Old 01-25-2019, 09:34 PM
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Not only are we trying to compare players across eras, but we are essentially comparing marathoners to sprinters. Who's the greatest "runner" of all time, Haile Gebrselassie (marathoner from Ethiopia) or Usain Bolt (Jamaican sprinter)? Asking whether a certain pitcher is better than another across disciplines (and eras) is essentially asking the same thing. It's a silly and futile exercise, regardless of the metrics and WAR and other advanced stats that people can pull from their arses.

Relievers are sprinters, starters are long distance runners. There's room for both on today's squad. Don't try to compare them.
OK - based on your point, the great post WWII starters that pitched pre-1980 were BOTH sprinters & long distance runners (like the greatest racehorse ever Secretariat...LOL). Gibson, Seaver, Marichal, Koufax, Palmer, Hunter, Ryan, Carlton, etc. ran their 8 inning long distance races and then, for the most part, sprinted to the finish line in the 9th inning by finishing their own games. This is why Mariano cannot be mentioned in the same breath with these great starting pitchers. It really borders on insanity to think that Mariano can be compared to these starting pitcher studs.
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It's madness. But so far 40 votes for top 10 pitchers ever.
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It's madness. But so far 40 votes for top 10 pitchers ever.
The 40 votes all live less than 40 miles from the Bronx.
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The 40 votes all live less than 40 miles from the Bronx.
Ha! Great observation Watson.... no shit Sherlock......!
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The 40 votes all live less than 40 miles from the Bronx.
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Peter- I’ve always loved that New Yorker cover, especially being a New Yorker born and bred.

BTW, I currently just fall under the 40 mile radius (38)...
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Peter- I’ve always loved that New Yorker cover, especially being a New Yorker born and bred.

BTW, I currently just fall under the 40 mile radius (38)...
I knew it.

If I’m right about 38 out of 40, will I be on the Hall of Fame ballot.
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......or will I need 39
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The 40 votes all live less than 40 miles from the Bronx.
I live less than 40 miles from the Bronx, but voted that way just to tick people off
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