1933 Goudey Babe Ruth #181 Is this one real?

Sworth14 · #1 01-17-2019, 07:13 AM

What makes everyone so sure it is a reprint? I thought it was when I got it, but I have no clue.

Leon · #2 01-17-2019, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sworth14

What makes everyone so sure it is a reprint? I thought it was when I got it, but I have no clue.

A real one is now next to the poor looking fake in your first post. See the differences in print quality? Yours looks all washed out compared to the other real one that looks crisp. That is how to tell.

ullmandds · #3 01-17-2019, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sworth14

What makes everyone so sure it is a reprint? I thought it was when I got it, but I have no clue.

Send it to tpg�er if you think its real.

darwinbulldog · #4 01-17-2019, 07:49 AM

Many, myself included, are hesitant to list the noticeable signs that it is fake on the internet since counterfeiters can learn from that information. However, this one, as Leon suggests, is not a good fake. No one who has looked at several thousand 1933 Goudeys over the years would need more than about half a second to assess that it looks all wrong. It's like looking at a picture of Daniel Day-Lewis in costume as Abraham Lincoln and recognizing that he's supposed to look like Lincoln, and he does kinda look like Lincoln I suppose, but it's obvious that it isn't a photo of Lincoln himself. If you had to say what the evidence is you could certainly do it, but it just feels sort of self-evident if you've grown up seeing pictures of Lincoln.

ullmandds · #5 01-17-2019, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Many, myself included, are hesitant to list the noticeable signs that it is fake on the internet since counterfeiters can learn from that information. However, this one, as Leon suggests, is not a good fake. No one who has looked at several thousand 1933 Goudeys over the years would need more than about half a second to assess that it looks all wrong. It's like looking at a picture of Daniel Day-Lewis in costume as Abraham Lincoln and recognizing that he's supposed to look like Lincoln, and he does kinda look like Lincoln I suppose, but it's obvious that it isn't a photo of Lincoln himself. If you had to say what the evidence is you could certainly do it, but it just feels sort of self-evident if you've grown up seeing pictures of Lincoln.

Agreed! Also...what did this large collection consist of? Cards from 80�s-present with a goudey ruth thrown in? Use your head. Look for comparables on the internet...it only takes a few minutes. And if you don�t have the ability to critically analyze these cards to determine if they�re real or fake you should not be buying them ungraded.

irv · #6 01-17-2019, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Many, myself included, are hesitant to list the noticeable signs that it is fake on the internet since counterfeiters can learn from that information. However, this one, as Leon suggests, is not a good fake. No one who has looked at several thousand 1933 Goudeys over the years would need more than about half a second to assess that it looks all wrong. It's like looking at a picture of Daniel Day-Lewis in costume as Abraham Lincoln and recognizing that he's supposed to look like Lincoln, and he does kinda look like Lincoln I suppose, but it's obvious that it isn't a photo of Lincoln himself. If you had to say what the evidence is you could certainly do it, but it just feels sort of self-evident if you've grown up seeing pictures of Lincoln.

Exactly! How many times have we seen this? One or 2 posts from a newbie when the info is gathered and then never heard from again.

RedsFan1941 · #7 01-17-2019, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Many, myself included, are hesitant to list the noticeable signs that it is fake on the internet since counterfeiters can learn from that information. However, this one, as Leon suggests, is not a good fake. No one who has looked at several thousand 1933 Goudeys over the years would need more than about half a second to assess that it looks all wrong. It's like looking at a picture of Daniel Day-Lewis in costume as Abraham Lincoln and recognizing that he's supposed to look like Lincoln, and he does kinda look like Lincoln I suppose, but it's obvious that it isn't a photo of Lincoln himself. If you had to say what the evidence is you could certainly do it, but it just feels sort of self-evident if you've grown up seeing pictures of Lincoln.

i agree. the guy asked if it was real because he didn’t want to waste money sending it to psa. the responses he received tells him he would be wasting that money. so I think telling him it’s fake does help him.

swarmee · #8 01-17-2019, 10:20 AM

All the OP has to do is to click the button up top labeled "Net54 Archive Center" and read all the articles at the bottom of the page.

Sworth14 · #9 01-18-2019, 09:09 AM

No reason to be rude. I already said I thought it was a fake. I know he would not have given it up if it was real. Just wanted peoples opinions before I paid money for it. is the first time i have had my hands on a Goudey real or fake. Everything I found the internet was less then helpful. I know it is still an old card worth next to nothing, but i was curious. Didn't mean to offend any professionals on here, just the first one in have had. Everything else I got from him is 100% authentic. This was one I wasnt sure about. Thanks you to everyone who helped without being a jerk. The rest of you, relax, it was just a damn question.

Leon · #10 01-18-2019, 09:22 AM

I didn't really see anyone being a jerk or rude? I had said it was easy to tell and not even close. Then I put a real one next to your fake one in the first post so you could see for yourself. You might need a bit thicker skin if you think folks were being a jerk. They weren't. They were trying to be helpful. My 22 yrs old daughter is also anti-confrontational. She wouldn't do well here.

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Originally Posted by Sworth14

No reason to be rude. I already said I thought it was a fake. I know he would not have given it up if it was real. Just wanted peoples opinions before I paid money for it. is the first time i have had my hands on a Goudey real or fake. Everything I found the internet was less then helpful. I know it is still an old card worth next to nothing, but i was curious. Didn't mean to offend any professionals on here, just the first one in have had. Everything else I got from him is 100% authentic. This was one I wasnt sure about. Thanks you to everyone who helped without being a jerk. The rest of you, relax, it was just a damn question.

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