Hey, pennant guys

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Here is a MN Millers stadium pennant that I have posted before. I think we can probably date it to 1956.

Very cool! Interestingly, no Senators (I or II) or Twins stadium pennants.

The teams I’ve never seen in “stadium” version:

Phillies
Colt 45s
Mets (yes they have some with Shea but not from the same company)
Nationals/Senators
Twins

[hanes1111]

Picked this one up a while back , found it in a rubbermaid!

[Tigerden]

Keeping this great thread going. Here are some pennants that I was able to frame (finally) at a price I was comfortable with paying. The '37 crossed bats pennant I just picked up today. Its in excellent condition with the tassles intact. For the pennants I did not professionally frame , I opted for these wood frame pennant holders and just tuck the tassles in back. My mancave (basement) is pretty pennant heavy but what the hey, I love 'em.

[perezfan]

Those look fantastic, Adam...

I looked long and hard at that 1937 Tigers, as well. Gorgeous piece. And that green '45 Tigers is such a toughie!

Congrats on acquiring those rare beauties, and the nice framing as well!

[Tigerden]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Those look fantastic, Adam...

I looked long and hard at that 1937 Tigers, as well. Gorgeous piece. And that green '45 Tigers is such a toughie!

Congrats on acquiring those rare beauties, and the nice framing as well!

Thanks Mark. The 1937 was the quickest transaction I've ever had on eBay. We both lived in the same county and arranged for pickup at a local library only two hours after the sale. I always worry how the seller will package these pennants but didn't have to worry in this case. Adam

[Duluth Eskimo]

Adam,
Your pennants are great and condition is outstanding. Both those 1945’s are tough ones. Btw, I like the framing. Very subtle which allows the pennant and colors to pop. Nice display

[Tigerden]

Thanks Jason. One of the things interesting about the yellow '45 pennant if you look close the spine is actually two separate pieces of felt sewn together. I didn't notice it when I bought it and the seller (Heritage) didn't mention it in their listing. They are clearly original and not some later repair based on the stitching pattern and also the fact they are the same color. I'm guessing these are machine sewn and the person doing it came up short on this one and got creative. Has anyone ever seen this on other pennants? Its a first for me.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by hanes1111

Picked this one up a while back , found it in a rubbermaid!

That is a bizarre pennant, with the “backwards” lettering. Cool, that it has a maker that I don’t think any of us (especially Domer05) are familiar with.

[hanes1111]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

That is a bizarre pennant, with the “backwards” lettering. Cool, that it has a maker that I don’t think any of us (especially Domer05) are familiar with.

Yeah not sure exactly what it was from maybe a souvenir of some type but thought it would be an interesting share!

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

That is a bizarre pennant, with the “backwards” lettering. Cool, that it has a maker that I don’t think any of us (especially Domer05) are familiar with.

Ah, DeMar Mfg. Co. I did a little research on this company a few months ago when I was writing that piece on Trench Mfg. Co. because both were Buffalo, NY based.

DeMar actually pre-dates Trench. I found some references to their existence as a felt novelty maker as early as 1915, or five years before Trench was founded. In 1917 they relocated from 170 Oak St. to 270 N. Division St. As far as I know the two companies were never related.

I've seen maybe a half dozen or so pennants bearing their label. All were travel/souvenir pennants, typically with a city name sewn across them--and, from spine to tip, I might add.

For that reason, for better or worse, I am fairly confident this was not sold as a Pirates baseball pennant. But, man it'd look cool when surrounded by some Pirates memorabilia....

This particular style, where the lettering goes from tip to spine, was offered by DeMar and other manufacturers of the day. It doesn't seem like it was very popular. (Unless maybe the consumer was dyslexic?) But, you will find this style offered in vintage felt novelty catalogues from that era. Here's an example of one, designated as "R-1", offered by the Arthur Mfg. Co. in Lowville, NY ca. 1925:

[perezfan]

Some more great research... many thanks!

[KrenBats]

Picked this up yesterday at an antique show. I ended up going late so expectations were low. At the last table, I saw a pile of old pennants, mostly college and points of interest. From the what I can tell, this is a 1910 Kalamazoo Kazoos minor league pennant from the Southern Michigan League. Pennant is big 14x34 inches. Does anyone have any info on this? Really couldn’t find much.

[ooo-ribay]

Very cool Kazooz pennant. Are you convinced it’s vintage? It looks almost to good to be true, although I can’t really imagine anyone doing repros of the Southern Michigan League.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by KrenBats

Picked this up yesterday at an antique show. I ended up going late so expectations were low. At the last table, I saw a pile of old pennants, mostly college and points of interest. From the what I can tell, this is a 1910 Kalamazoo Kazoos minor league pennant from the Southern Michigan League. Pennant is big 14x34 inches. Does anyone have any info on this? Really couldn’t find much.

That’s a nice pennant. Is there a tag on the back?

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by KrenBats

Picked this up yesterday at an antique show. I ended up going late so expectations were low. At the last table, I saw a pile of old pennants, mostly college and points of interest. From the what I can tell, this is a 1910 Kalamazoo Kazoos minor league pennant from the Southern Michigan League. Pennant is big 14x34 inches. Does anyone have any info on this? Really couldn’t find much.

Great Kazooz Pennant! Really nice Antique Show Find, and possibly a lone survivor.

Thought you might find it interesting that the same leaping Fielder image was used for an early Teens White Sox Pennant. Here's one from my collection that has the same Fielder, but in color and with a Baseball coming towards his glove. This pennant is oversized as well. Enjoy!

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Some more great research... many thanks!

Found a little more info on DeMar Mfg. Co....

DeMar appears to have incorporated in 1911. It was founded in Buffalo, NY by Clifford E. DeMar, Elizabeth A. Winship, and Jessamine M. Davis. When it first opened it was located at 109 Oak St. inside the H.D. Taylor Building, a much larger manufacturer of automotive components.

In those early days they were having trouble finding sewing machine operators and routinely advertised in the classifieds for such labor.

By 1914 Clifford DeMar apparently skipped town, leaving some of his creditors (perhaps even Ms. Winship and Davis) high and dry. Back then there were no credit bureaus like Experian. There were, however, "credit men" whose job it was to keep track of debtors in their area and publish their names in annual publications, such as the Bulletin of National Association of Credit Men. Mr. DeMar's name appears in both the 1914 and 1915 editions of the above publication as a missing debtor. Such notoriety was intended to warn others that men like him were too risky to lend money to.

But DeMar Mfg. Co. continued on without its namesake. In 1917 they were still making pennants and other novelty items. Evidently the company was doing well without Mr. DeMar, as they had moved out of the Taylor Building to some new digs up the street: first 170 Oak St; then 270 N. Division St.

It doesn't look like the company survived the Great Depression. And, it seems their pennants were limited to travel and collegiate pennants only.

[thetahat]

Really enjoying these minor league pennants ... here’s one of my favorites ... does anyone recognize the graphic (besides the bison head)?