Trimming Frauds Revealed | How Does It Impact Vintage???

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Seems like a lot out there collectors have to navigate even with 3rd party opinions. Almost discouraging to collect.

Yep. All you can do, short of quitting (and I did once out of disgust for the whole card doctoring BS) is to navigate it the best you can realizing your success rate likely will not be 100 percent unless you're only buying beat up commons, or busting wax.

[ALR-bishop]

Busting wax has it's own risks as well

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Busting wax has it's own risks as well

Vintage, yes.

[egbeachley]

Another scammer identified

https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...llectibles-com

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

Another scammer identified

https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...llectibles-com

This links to an article from 2013 about "JTM Investment Group." Can you explain, I must not be following.

[drcy]

Altered "high grade" cards in holders is nothing new and I assume has been common knowledge. This has been mentioned (including by me here on this board) numerous times over the years. The head of once biggest sports memorabilia auction house even said how he would "prep your cards" for grading. A lot of high grade professionally graded cards should be graded AUTH. That's just a fact. How people want to deal with or approach that fact is another matter. Much of the approach is how one prices things. One approach would be to take the grades with due grain of salt, and price accordingly. If you want to pay an extra $50,000 for the same card because it's been "better prepped," that's a choice. Not a choice I would make, but a choice.

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

This links to an article from 2013 about "JTM Investment Group." Can you explain, I must not be following.

Jason Stern from thereandnowcollectibles has allegedly been linked to many of the alterations. The link was someone’s way of identifying the details.

[egbeachley]

But here is another interesting nugget posted today.

Apparently these Upper Deck cards are laser cut to incredible precision. For a TPG to consider 1/32 inch tolerances (allowing trimming 1/64 inch to each side) is ridiculous.