recent auto counterfeits - the effects on auto collecting??

[Republicaninmass]

I can understand, but they are many more doctored cards in holders than fake autos that have slipped by TPGs. I don't see people running away from high end cards. In fact TPGs exist almost solely out of the fraud , and over grading that ran rampant in the hobby.

I was just picking on scraps and missing ink to make a point regarding t206s. What about rebacked cards, etc etc.

[mrvster]

I hear you my man! what a mess


you are great people

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by mrvster

I hear you my man! what a mess


you are great people

The hobby survived “Operation Bullpen” which was an absolute nightmare w/regard to the weeding out many fake autographs. Coming back extremely strong to realize incredible pricing points on high end autographs. This T206 mess is a “molecule” compared to those prior issues, and with all due respect, the autograph collecting industry will once again brush aside this blip. Simply stated, that IS the most likely scenario. Happy New Year!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Vintageclout

The hobby survived “Operation Bullpen” which was an absolute nightmare w/regard to the weeding out many fake autographs. Coming back extremely strong to realize incredible pricing points on high end autographs. This T206 mess is a “molecule” compared to those prior issues, and with all due respect, the autograph collecting industry will once again brush aside this blip. Simply stated, that IS the most likely scenario. Happy New Year!

^^This^^ Sadly besides the few people that actually ended up with the 5 or 6 cards that got pointed out I doubt anybody really cares. With cards we have had proof with before and after pictures of very high end cards being doctored. Then had several people stick up for the sellers of the altered cards. That is the reality of our hobby.

[oldjudge]

I think many of us can determine whether the cards that we collect are trimmed or rebacked. I know I can. However, I think very few if any of us can definitively say if an autograph on a card is genuine or forged. Therefore, unless I see the player signing the card, or it has impeccable provenance, I will stay away, far, far away.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

I think many of us can determine whether the cards that we collect are trimmed or rebacked. I know I can. However, I think very few if any of us can definitively say if an autograph on a card is genuine or forged. Therefore, unless I see the player signing the card, or it has impeccable provenance, I will stay away, far, far away.

This.