"RESTORED" Wagner - how should we feel about this as collectors?

[mrvster]

sale of this "creation " will definitely set an ugly precedent.......




cars, art, I get......maybe even coins stretching it!



but stamps, paper currency and especially sports cards HELL NO!

[mrvster]

at what percentage of a restored card original cardboard is needed to consider it original???

1/32 nd???( 3.125%)..........1/10 th???(10 %)......1/5 th????(20 %).....

1/2 ???(50 %)

[mrvster]

this is what I'm saying......

sometimes we will "never know".....if you don't have a before and after photo....

the franken wagner that just sold maybe was 65% original???
when you consider the coardboard, the extra glue, ink ect....


it becomes too subjective...

too much liability to forgery and fraud....

the hobby is polluted with this stank already...

excepting this "restoration/recreations" is setting a future precendent that opens the floodgates to fraud and future forgeries.....

it will pollute the hobby further......cards will be "restored" and "recreated" and "enhanced", and not holdered, or slipped by graders ect...opens us up to too much shit....

trust me, this is not a good thing


this worries me......future graded cards may actually be "restored"


build up a corner here and there, add some ink, ugh, YUCK

[C-mack]

Well all you have to do is call psa or sgc and see what thier stance on the subject is but I'm sure it's well over 50% , most of the card is there so it seems like a perfect candidate for the work. It's not like the restored work is fooling the graders so I dont the fear of Fraud with this stuff happening