"RESTORED" Wagner - how should we feel about this as collectors?

[rats60]

Slightly altered would be soaked, pressed corner or crease, trimmed edge, etc. This card went through major restoration. It is understandable demand of low pop cards in low grade or even altered cards that look nice. However, this card had 3 borders cut off. By restoring it does that make it worth more? Or is this the bottom on price now and altered or low grade worth more than before?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by rats60

Slightly altered would be soaked, pressed corner or crease, trimmed edge, etc. This card went through major restoration. It is understandable demand of low pop cards in low grade or even altered cards that look nice. However, this card had 3 borders cut off. By restoring it does that make it worth more? Or is this the bottom on price now and altered or low grade worth more than before?

i'm aware of the restoration that was done on this wagner...my point being "restoration" is being more accepted in the hobby...imo.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

i'm aware of the restoration that was done on this wagner...my point being "restoration" is being more accepted in the hobby...imo.

I understand that. My question is how does the restoration price relate to the altered price or the "beater" price now? I always thought that it was much less. So is this sale a change in thinking or does it drive up the value of others?

[ullmandds]

Time will tell I suppose??

[Touch'EmAll]

Perhaps third party graders should have 2 separate designations - authentic, and authentic restored. Or is it already too late for that?

[mrvster]

card is not authentic when it has been altered this much......if this is where the hobby is going, I don't like it one bit! card went way too much

full disclosure: I would take it if it was given to me

but........................

it's not an "original" card!!!.....a major restoration on cards, art, antiques, I get it, but not one cards.... it changes the original integrity of the card where extent of future restoration of cards will be blurred.....meaning soon you wont be able to tell where the original ends and the "new" "restored " pieces are added...

condition of the original will not matter anymore....if you have enough cash you can just make it gem mint!

who is too say what was "unrestored" and what is "original" if a card is restored, holdered, then cracked out???? soon we won't be able to tell...

all previous cards grades will be useless....

just "build up the soft corners", "touch up" or add more back on that broadleaf 460....

this is opening a major can of worms and I don't like it

[Touch'EmAll]

Could we get one true beater, cut it up into tiny bits, then “restore” each bit to now have, say, a dozen authentic cards?