Problems with SGC ?

[glynparson]

I am sorry but I strongly disagree with you. those cards absolutely look properly graded to me and I do not feel they would have graded higher with psa in fact I feel two have a shot at being lower not higher from psa. Just one man’s opinion but i have had thousands and thousands of cards graded by them.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I am sorry but I strongly disagree with you. those cards absolutely look properly graded to me and I do not feel they would have graded higher with psa in fact I feel two have a shot at being lower not higher from psa. Just one man’s opinion but i have had thousands and thousands of cards graded by them.

Except for the old Mathews and old Berra. Those cards are clearly over graded. I have been working on up grading my t205 set to PSA/SGC 5 or better, but often when I find a card and compare it to my 4 or 4.5, the 4 or 4.5 is nicer so I pass. I don't know if the grading standards are tighter or maybe the companies are just doing a better training graders and there are fewer errors. It makes sense to me that dealers and collectors who have over graded cards would want to move them sooner rather than later. If the card is properly graded in an old holder, they wouldn't have a problem keeping it. So, you would see a lot of over graded cards in old holders for sale.

[whitehse]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I am sorry but I strongly disagree with you. those cards absolutely look properly graded to me and I do not feel they would have graded higher with psa in fact I feel two have a shot at being lower not higher from psa. Just one man’s opinion but i have had thousands and thousands of cards graded by them.

Thanks for your comments (and other's comments as well).

Honestly, I am not crazy upset at the grades but I did expect them to be higher based on those same cards I had seen in the past that had been graded by SGC and others. I will certainly accept the grades as I do plan on having these cards stay in my collection but I have learned one lesson here through all of this. I have been a raw card collector for 40+ years and it appears I need to stay that way. I saw these cards and thought they would be my chance to see how good my grading eye really is in terms of having cards slabbed but it appears my grading eye just isn't that good!

As someone else said in response to my post, I will now look for cards already graded if I intend to have slabbed cards in my collection because it seems the grades I tend to gravitate to are much cheaper already graded than buying raw and hoping to win the jackpot.

Thanks for your comments everyone!

[swarmee]

I think the top two look pack pulled recently and would have expected a 6.5 and a 7 or so on them. I would have been disappointed by the grades as well. And I'm usually tougher on grading than others.

[DeanH3]

Generally speaking, I think SGC was always a little more lenient on corner wear than PSA. Looks like they might be tightening up that area.

[Republicaninmass]

They NOW include centering in their grade similar to a psa NQ! I sent them a psa 8mc and they said it would be an SGC 30!

[murphy8276]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

They NOW include centering in their grade similar to a psa NQ! I sent them a psa 8mc and they said it would be an SGC 30!

This is horrible to change their entire outlook on cards. 90% of their old grades are suspect. I may be biased, but I personally just sent in an SGC 84 and it got returned as trimmed! LOL