Not the only Hall of Fame getting Watered Down

[Bram99]

No one has mentioned the fact that concept of halls of fame itself is being watered down. The Mascot Hall of Fame will open soon in Whiting, IN.

Who should be the inaugural (that means first) class?

Bernie Brewer?

Dartmouth’s Keggy the Keg?


http://mascothalloffame.com

[tjb1952tjb]

Originally Posted by Bram99

No one has mentioned the fact that concept of halls of fame itself is being watered down. The Mascot Hall of Fame will open soon in Whiting, IN.

Who should be the inaugural (that means first) class?

Bernie Brewer?

Dartmouth’s Keggy the Keg?


http://mascothalloffame.com

The San Diego Chicken..............

[Baseball Rarities]

The Cure and Roxy Music are both very deserving IMHO. I agree that it has become more of a Pop Music HOF than and RnR HOF though.

[doug.goodman]

I'm a metalhead, and I don't understand how Def Leppard made it. I saw them open for Blackfoot.

And Bon Jovi? Ugh.

And fucking Radiohead? Seriously?

[insidethewrapper]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the "Guess Who" and "Tommy James" are in the Hall of Fame and they had several hits.

Slim Whitman must be in the Hall of Fame, the advertisements stated he sold more records than The Beatles.

[mr2686]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the "Guess Who" and "Tommy James" are in the Hall of Fame and they had several hits.

Slim Whitman must be in the Hall of Fame, the advertisements stated he sold more records than The Beatles.

Tommy James and the Shondells had two number one hits and 14 top 40 hits, and they're not in the hall. They've also had a number of their songs covered including Billy Idol's Mony Mony, and Joan Jett Crimson in Clover. If that's not enough, then take a listen to Draggin the Line while driving with the top down in summer, and try to tell me that it's not one of the greatest songs of all time. Damn, I'm up way too early drinking coffee. LOL

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by mr2686

Tommy James and the Shondells had two number one hits and 14 top 40 hits, and they're not in the hall. They've also had a number of their songs covered including Billy Idol's Mony Mony, and Joan Jett Crimson in Clover. If that's not enough, then take a listen to Draggin the Line while driving with the top down in summer, and try to tell me that it's not one of the greatest songs of all time. Damn, I'm up way too early drinking coffee. LOL

“I Think We’re Alone Now” is one of my all time favorites

[silvor]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I'm a metalhead, and I don't understand how Def Leppard made it. I saw them open for Blackfoot.

Hysteria. That album was HUGE. I believe that tour they played 2 nights in pretty much every city.

[barrysloate]

I'm a cranky old-timer. Give me Jefferson Airplane or Buffalo Springfield and I'm a happy camper. Forget anything post-1970. I want the Sixties!!

[ejharrington]

The fact that KISS had to wait 20 years to get in proves what a joke the R&R HOF is. The only time I have ever been disappointed with Gene and Paul are when they accepted the nomination. I wanted them to give the R&R HOF the Johnny Rotten treatment.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I'm a cranky old-timer. Give me Jefferson Airplane or Buffalo Springfield and I'm a happy camper. Forget anything post-1970. I want the Sixties!!

+1 to Buffalo Springfield. And I saw Jefferson Starship Introducing Grace Slick, at the Hollywood Bowl Amphitheater. That might have been the best concert I have ever seen next to REO Speedwagon in Anaheim in 1980. And Jethro Tull, what an artist!!

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by silvor

Hysteria. That album was HUGE. I believe that tour they played 2 nights in pretty much every city.

One big album does not a fall of fame career make.

Among those in the metal / hard rock world who should get in before Leppard are : Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Scorpions, Thin Lizzy, and Ronnie James Dio.

And Slayer. Proniounced Slaaayyyyaaahhhhh!!!!!!

And Devo.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

One big album does not a fall of fame career make.

Among those in the metal / hard rock world who should get in before Leppard are : Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Scorpions, Thin Lizzy, and Ronnie James Dio.

And Slayer. Proniounced Slaaayyyyaaahhhhh!!!!!!

And Devo.

Nice to see Thin Lizzy mentioned.

And what’s the point, if Devo isn’t even in!!!

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

One big album does not a fall of fame career make.

Among those in the metal / hard rock world who should get in before Leppard are : Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Scorpions, Thin Lizzy, and Ronnie James Dio.

And Slayer. Proniounced Slaaayyyyaaahhhhh!!!!!!

And Devo.

It's pronounced:

"SLAYER...SLAYER....SLAYER...SLAYER"


SLAYER RULES!!!!!!!

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

One big album does not a fall of fame career make.

2 diamond albums, 6 other platinum albums, and multiple gold albums. They didn't even remotely have "one big album".

[rats60]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

One big album does not a fall of fame career make.

Among those in the metal / hard rock world who should get in before Leppard are : Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Scorpions, Thin Lizzy, and Ronnie James Dio.

And Slayer. Proniounced Slaaayyyyaaahhhhh!!!!!!

And Devo.

2 big albums. Hysteria out sold Pyromania. That is also 2 more big albums that any of those listed bands had. I don't have a problem with Def Leopard making it, but none of those are worthy to me.

Only 2 rock bands really matter and now they will both be in, The Velvet Underground and Roxy Music. After that it is just who is popular and the obvious choices (Beatles, Stones, Who, Zeppelin, Floyd, etc.).

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I'm a metalhead, and I don't understand how Def Leppard made it. I saw them open for Blackfoot.

And Bon Jovi? Ugh.

And fucking Radiohead? Seriously?

You can insult my mom, or my kids, or my wife, and no hard feelings, but don't you ever talk about Radiohead that way. You've just made a moderately powerful enemy.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

You can insult my mom, or my kids, or my wife, and no hard feelings, but don't you ever talk about Radiohead that way. You've just made a moderately powerful enemy.

Your mom, kids and wife are all less boring live than Radiohead. The best thing they ever did was their cover of Beck's "Loser".

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

You can insult my mom, or my kids, or my wife, and no hard feelings, but don't you ever talk about Radiohead that way. You've just made a moderately powerful enemy.

My favorite band of all-time and none of my friends or family can stand a single song, which I’m totally fine with

[Laxcat]

I see the argument for bands/musicians that heavily influenced other artist being inducted. But why in the H-E-🏒-🏒 are The Pixies not in yet?

[DaveW]

Originally Posted by Bram99

No one has mentioned the fact that concept of halls of fame itself is being watered down. The Mascot Hall of Fame will open soon in Whiting, IN.

Who should be the inaugural (that means first) class?

Bernie Brewer?

Dartmouth’s Keggy the Keg?

http://mascothalloffame.com

So, does Charlie the Tuna qualify as a Mascot - if so, he’s definately in. Or is
he more of a spokesfish?

[drcy]

I'm a Cure fan, but, to be honest, it makes no difference to me if they are in a Hall or not. They were an alternative band. Being elected members of a Hall of Fame would be totally against what was the intent and philosophy of an anti-establishment band like the Sex Pistols. And if you've ever heard an interview of Robert Smith, you'd know he'd be the first to scoff at the idea of being elected to a music Hall of Fame. You should hear what he said about the British Royalty and Royal titles when someone asked if he would ever be knighted.

But, if there is a deserving band, Roxy Music would be one. I'm surprised there's a debate about that and was surprised to learn they weren't already elected.

But, to each his own, and, as they say, art is in the eye of the beholder.

Personally, I see the merits of a Rock and Roll museum, but an elected Rock and Roll "Hall of Fame" always seemed like a dumb idea on its very face to me. No doubt it was concocted at least in part to make money (sell tickets). Thus, whether or not my favorite bands are members of a dumb idea makes no difference to me. In fact, if I had to choose, I'd prefer they not be members.

But yes, I also saw the point (and humor) of the initial post that the first wave included bands such as The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and Elvis Presley, and now its The Cure and Def Leppard. Whether or not I am a fan of The Cure and Roxy Music, I won't argue that it appears that they running low on bands. It may become a common running joke after a few more elections. Someone in Cleveland may be trying to figure out how they can elect The Beatles and Elvis a second time.

One problem with many Halls of Fame, including MLB and Rock and Roll, is they feel compelled to elect someone each year no matter what. But they won't do that because the inductions are money making events. It would of course be refreshing if the Baseball or Rock HOF, or Nobel Prize committee, would occasionally say "Sorry, no one deserving this year." But the Cleveland and Cooperstown Chamber of Commerce wouldn't like that. After retirement, Mickey Mantle said he became wary of awards because he deduced that most of them were attempts to get him to attend their dinner or event.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by drcy

i'm a cure fan, but, to be honest, it makes no difference to me if they are in a hall or not. They were an alternative band. Being elected members of a hall of fame would be totally against what was the intent and philosophy of an anti-establishment band like the sex pistols. And if you've ever heard an interview of robert smith, you'd know he'd be the first to scoff at the idea of being elected to a music hall of fame. You should hear what he said about the british royalty and royal titles when someone asked if he would ever be knighted.

But, if there is a deserving band, roxy music would be one. I'm surprised there's a debate about that and was surprised to learn they weren't already elected.

But, to each his own, and, as they say, art is in the eye of the beholder.

Personally, i see the merits of a rock and roll museum, but an elected rock and roll "hall of fame" always seemed like a dumb idea on its very face to me. No doubt it was concocted at least in part to make money (sell tickets). Thus, whether or not my favorite bands are members of a dumb idea makes no difference to me. In fact, if i had to choose, i'd prefer they not be members.

One problem with many halls of fame, including mlb and rock and roll, is the feel compelled (= $$$) to elect someone each year no matter what. Of course it would be refreshing if the baseball hall of fame or nobel prize would say "sorry, no one deserving this year."

but yes, i also saw the point (and humor) of the initial post that the first wave included bands such as the beatles, the rolling stones and elvis presley, and now its the cure and def leppard.

+1,000,000