T206 HOF tiers

[PiratesWS1979]

This is how I would rank...or at least how I collect.

1. Cobb
2. a. Johnson b. Mathewson c. Young
3. a. Speaker b. Lajoie
4. a. Brown b. Keeler c. Collins d. Waddell
5. a. Walsh b. Crawford c. Joss
6. Tinker to Evers to Chance
7. Everyone else

[Bigdaddy]

If Wagner had been produced in the same numbers as Cobb or others on the list, where would he rank? Equal to Cobb? I would put him no lower than #2, along with Young, Johnson and Matty.

[Throttlesteer]

Its hard to separate the allure of the Wagner card from the player. But, Speaker was comparable and his T206 is a rookie. I would give Wagner a slight nod over Speaker, but most consider Speaker a distant tier 3.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Throttlesteer

Its hard to separate the allure of the Wagner card from the player. But, Speaker was comparable and his T206 is a rookie. I would give Wagner a slight nod over Speaker, but most consider Speaker a distant tier 3.

If you look at the 1915 Cracker Jack set, Wagner is 3rd behind Shoeless Joe and Cobb, above Wajo and Matty and about 6 times more valuable than Speaker. If Wagner had 3 or 4 cards they would slot in behind Cobb. If he just had the 1 portrait, he would be about the same as the green Cobb.

[Throttlesteer]

Originally Posted by rats60

If you look at the 1915 Cracker Jack set, Wagner is 3rd behind Shoeless Joe and Cobb, above Wajo and Matty and about 6 times more valuable than Speaker. If Wagner had 3 or 4 cards they would slot in behind Cobb. If he just had the 1 portrait, he would be about the same as the green Cobb.

I would still argue that Wagner's card values get a significant bump from his T206.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Throttlesteer

I would still argue that Wagner's card values get a significant bump from his T206.

Bill James ranks Honus Wagner as the #2 player of all time. In the original HOF vote, Wagner finished tied for 2nd with Babe Ruth, behind only Cobb. I would argue the t206 Wagner gets a bump because he is one of the greatest players of all time. Otherwise it would be no different than the 1933 Goudey Lajoie or t206 Plank, cards that once comprised the big 3 of the hobby, but have lagged behind cards of better players. Kids in 1909 wanted Cobb and Wagner. That is still the case today.

[tmw2ward]

see the link below.....


https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...mposition/1522