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Old 11-30-2018, 05:27 PM
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Default T206 scandal

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ograph-scheme/

This article may be related somehow to the same group that was arrested & is possibly producing these fake T206's come from same town...The buyer of our T206 baker(unsigned), later "signed" and authenticated and sold in REA came from a small town of pop 9000 in Ohio. I know the e bay item # seen in worthpoint and posted by Pat exactly matches our reply to feedback research which also contains same e bay id #, and also shows his handle. I dont have his name, nor do I have his original hard copy invoice...but I do know from the research we conducted that his history from his ID(prior to being blocked) referred to location: Girard, Ohio.

The noose is closing.
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Old 11-30-2018, 06:32 PM
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Is that Marino related to the Marino's from Operation Bullpen infamy?



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https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ograph-scheme/

This article may be related somehow to the same group that was arrested & is possibly producing these fake T206's come from same town...The buyer of our T206 baker(unsigned), later "signed" and authenticated and sold in REA came from a small town of pop 9000 in Ohio. I know the e bay item # seen in worthpoint and posted by Pat exactly matches our reply to feedback research which also contains same e bay id #, and also shows his handle. I dont have his name, nor do I have his original hard copy invoice...but I do know from the research we conducted that his history from his ID(prior to being blocked) referred to location: Girard, Ohio.

The noose is closing.
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Old 11-30-2018, 06:56 PM
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Once again, great detective work. This is such a sad story but is a great read - I keep checking back and hoping an update on identification of the forger. I took a quick peek at the summary of this thread on page one and noted that the TPAs for the ones identified are mostly SGC and JSA but the highest dollar one is the PSA/DNA Baker.

For my own interest, I made a quick list for TPA tracking...

# Signature Certification
1 Fred Parent SGC Authentic & JSA
2 Billy Sullivan SGC Authentic & JSA
3 Bob Rhoades SGC Authentic
4 Paddy Livingston SGC Authentic
5 Frank Baker PSA/DNA
6 Elmer Flick SGC Authentic
7 Heinie Zimmerman SGC Authentic
8 Wid Conroy SGC Authentic
9 Larry Doyle SGC Authentic
10 Jap Barbeau SGC Authentic
11 Red Murray SGC Authentic
12 Eddie Cicotte SGC Authentic
13 Nap Rucker SGC Authentic & JSA
14 Jesse Tannehill
15 Rube Marquard JSA
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:47 PM
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The Baker was originally sold with a JSA cert and later got slabbed by PSA. In fact, the vast majority of these cards started with JSA I believe. You've got to look up the auctionhouse listings to find that out.
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:23 PM
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Is that Marino related to the Marino's from Operation Bullpen infamy?
Well, if this is the same family or group of conspirators, then it might be very easy to get the law enforcement back involved as this may be a parole violation. Therefore the sentences for further offenses would be magnified.
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I think the Marinos (Greg et al.) were based in Southern California?
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I think the Marinos (Greg et al.) were based in Southern California?
Yes they were.
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