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Old 11-29-2018, 07:55 AM
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Very troubling issue. I love baseball and history... signed vintage cards are the perfect intersection of the two. I'm impressed by how members of this group have unraveled it and I hope whoever is behind it is brought to justice for the sake of the hobby.

Here is my collection. I believe both Doyles and the Snodgrass are from the 2007 Great Pittsburgh find, and perhaps the McBride too... in case anyone can help shed light on their authenticity.
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Old 11-29-2018, 07:57 AM
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anyone remember the name of the American Greed guy who has posted here? Maybe they'd like to get in on the ground floor of a story instead of reporting on it years later. Would also ratchet up interest, possibly in law enforcement circles.
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Old 11-29-2018, 07:58 AM
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Apologies for the image orientation... I'm new to posting images on this group so not sure how they ended up sideways, they didn't look that way when being uploaded.
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:06 AM
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Joe - those are great signed T206 cards. All but the Marquard is from the 2007 Pittsburgh Find, and I remain confident are authentic.

The Marquard is actually from an eBay auction of four signed Marquards in 2004. I was the one that had the card authenticated by JSA/SGC, and I still have two others from that lot of four. They were my first four signed T206 cards ever to grace my collection. I can't see the serial numbers on yours clearly, but based on mine I'd guess 9005220-001 or 003.

Here are mine -- you won't find them on Worthpoint or Cardtarget, unless they go back to 2004, and in such instance you'll find only the signed versions!

Marquard At Sides SGC 20 Auto

Marquard Portrait SGC 30 Auto
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:16 AM
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That's a relief to hear! Thanks. Leon is trying to help me upload better images and also get the orientation right, so hopefully that happens soon. Sorry for being such a rookie.

You're right on my Marquard... the last 3 digits of the serial are 003
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:17 AM
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That's a relief to hear! Thanks. Leon is trying to help me upload better images and also get the orientation right, so hopefully that happens soon. Sorry for being such a rookie.

You're right on my Marquard... the last 3 digits of the serial are 003
Joe post back pics! Or post which back+factory each card has.
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:19 AM
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Don't have any back pics or the cards with me. I'll need to dig them out and take fresh front and back pics this weekend.
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Joe post back pics! Or post which back+factory each card has.
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:30 AM
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As this hobby has evolved, it has become incredibly dependent on third party graders and authenticators. Put something in a slab and it's just a heartbeat away from a world's record price. Bidders can't buy this stuff fast enough.

But we've known for a long time that countless altered, trimmed, and doctored cards find their way into slabs. And this has not dissuaded anybody from bidding on them, as long as the label tells them what they want to hear.

Now with the realization that fake autographs are finding their way into plastic, the hobby has received yet another black eye. And I'm guessing what our fellow board members have dug up on this thread is only the tip of the iceberg.

Something's gotta give. The hobby can't continue on this trajectory forever. TPG's have to find a way to build a better mousetrap. As it stands now, the mice are winning. At the very least, this is going to drive away a lot of collectors. As Corey said elsewhere, the role of provenance is going to play a bigger role in this industry down the road.
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JoeRand's card(s).....
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Very troubling issue. I love baseball and history... signed vintage cards are the perfect intersection of the two. I'm impressed by how members of this group have unraveled it and I hope whoever is behind it is brought to justice for the sake of the hobby.

Here is my collection. I believe both Doyles and the Snodgrass are from the 2007 Great Pittsburgh find, and perhaps the McBride too... in case anyone can help shed light on their authenticity.
Joe, I believe I sold you the McBride about 4-5 years ago and I had owned it for around a year and purchased it from a fellow board member who had had it for years. I am highly confident the signature is good.
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