Fake Signed T206 Cards (Too Many to List in the Title, See First Post for List)

[swarmee]

I wonder if this is enough proof and $$ to get a District Attorney interested.

[judsonhamlin]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I wonder if this is enough proof and $$ to get a District Attorney interested.

Well, the first step would be to file a police report for theft by deception, listing an unknown suspect and try to get a detective interested in hitting eBay and or the AH with a grand jury subpoena for the ID of the buyer of the cards off eBay and the consignors to the auction house. And provide the screen shots of the before and after of the cards along with the report.

[Fred]

There are a few more Marquard signed (authenticated) T206 cards on fleabay:



https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T20...frcectupt=true

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rube-Marqua...frcectupt=true

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-1911-T...frcectupt=true


Also (2) Doyles and a Carrigan

[swarmee]

So here are the cert numbers so far:
SGC 1377205-001: Rucker
SGC 1377205-002: Parent $2,700 REA (also JSA) Post #1
SGC 1377205-003: Sullivan $6,600 REA (also JSA) Post #8
SGC 1377205-004: Conroy
SGC 1378023-001: Flick Post #109
SGC 1378023-002: Rhoades
SGC 1378023-003: Livingstone $1,209 Hunt Post #59
SGC 1378023-004: Zimmermann Post #120
SGC 4002213-001: Cicotte Hunt $11,000 Post #125

PSA 41975322: Baker $24,000 REA (Previously JSA) Post #100

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by swarmee

So here are the cert numbers so far:
SGC 1377205-001: Rucker
SGC 1377205-002: Parent $2,700 REA (also JSA) Post #1
SGC 1377205-003: Sullivan $6,600 REA (also JSA) Post #8
SGC 1377205-004: Conroy
SGC 1378023-001: Flick Post #109
SGC 1378023-002: Rhoades
SGC 1378023-003: Livingstone $1,209 Hunt Post #59
SGC 1378023-004: Zimmermann Post #120
SGC 4002213-001: Cicotte Hunt $11,000 Post #125

PSA 41975322: Baker $24,000 REA (Previously JSA) Post #100

On the SGCs you have to use the AU cert number to look them up on the SGC website, not the cert numbers for the cards as listed above.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

On the SGCs you have to use the AU cert number to look them up on the SGC website, not the cert numbers for the cards as listed above.

Yeah, but the two prefix numbers showed they were all submitted by the same guy at the same time. And if you're an authenticator and you get four or more signed T206s in the same submission, are you more or less likely to pass them all?

[Exhibitman]

Just wanted to chime in and express my sympathy for those affected by this mess. If there's anyone who got one of these from a So.Cali seller and wants a threatening lawyer letter from a local lawyer, LMK and it will be gratis. I can't sue 'em for free but I can try to make them shit their pants for free. We have a pretty strict autograph law here that covers all CA based sellers and has been in effect for a few years. Might provide you with some recourse.

On an entirely separate note, one of the posts above asked whether collectors of other forms of prewar signed cards have noticed anything. Speaking as an Exhibit collector, the answer is "yes". There have been more signed Cobb, Ruth and Gehrig pieces in the last couple of years than I ever recall seeing before. Especially 48 HOF Cobb and mid-20s Ruth and Gehrig. Come to think of it, i don't think I ever saw a Ruth or Gehrig single signed piece earlier than a few years ago.

[ATP]

Originally Posted by swarmee

So here are the cert numbers so far:
SGC 1377205-001: Rucker
SGC 1377205-002: Parent $2,700 REA (also JSA) Post #1
SGC 1377205-003: Sullivan $6,600 REA (also JSA) Post #8
SGC 1377205-004: Conroy
SGC 1378023-001: Flick Post #109
SGC 1378023-002: Rhoades
SGC 1378023-003: Livingstone $1,209 Hunt Post #59
SGC 1378023-004: Zimmermann Post #120
SGC 4002213-001: Cicotte Hunt $11,000 Post #125

PSA 41975322: Baker $24,000 REA (Previously JSA) Post #100

Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but the following four cert numbers after that Baker one are for signed T206 cards of:

Sam Crawford
Sam Crawford
Elmer Flick
Rube Marquard

[T206Collector]

Is anybody else having as much fun as I am!?

I have to say the response of this community has made the kick in the teeth a lot easier to manage. So, thanks everybody for that!

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by ATP

Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but the following four cert numbers after that Baker one are for signed T206 cards of:

Sam Crawford
Sam Crawford
Elmer Flick
Rube Marquard

Right, but the PSA submission was done after the fact by the boardmember, so those are probably all not done by the forger.