Sharpies

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I would also think that the fine point sharpies would be preferable for autographs whether authentic or forged. I believe the fine point sharpies are considerably “younger” than the original sharpies. Does anyone know when the fine point sharpies were introduced?

Try signing a T206 with a standard Sharpie.

A little more food for thought....

In 1979, a new style tip was introduced in four colours, the Sharpie Extra Fine Point marker.

In 1989, the Sharpie Ultra Fine Point was introduced. With its slim barrel, metal pocket clip and precise tip that produces clean and accurate lines, the Sharpie Ultra Fine becomes the first marker to truly write like a pen.

Source: http://www.theofficesuppliessupermar...of-the-sharpie

[SetBuilder]

There's also the felt-tipped marker pens that came out right around the same time as ball point pens in the 1960's. They produce lines that look like sharpies at first glance.

[Chris-Counts]

Some kind of felt-tip pen was available in the early 1950s. I acquired a bunch of signed 1953 Bowmans from someone on Net54, which he had sent off to be signed back then. Some of them came back with relatively fine point, felt-tip signatures, like this one ...

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by Chris Counts

Some kind of felt-tip pen was available in the early 1950s. I acquired a bunch of signed 1953 Bowmans from someone on Net54, which he had sent off to be signed back then. Some of them came back with relatively fine point, felt-tip signatures, like this one ...

That signature looks like fountain pen though it may be some other style of pen. Is that card from Dwight Chapin's collection? He is a long time collector from Mill Valley.

Set Builder - Ball point pens came into common use in the 1940's. I have an autograph album from the 1948 Olympics, purchased from the person who got it, completely signed with a red ball point pen.

[timzcardz]

I saw the Marquard thread and thought Flair pen, which were much more prevalent int he 60's than Sharpies.

[Laxcat]

Originally Posted by timzcardz

I saw the Marquard thread and thought Flair pen, which were much more prevalent int he 60's than Sharpies.

Thanks. I couldn’t think of the name and it was killing me. Flair. My grandparents had those everywhere at their house.

[jerseygary]

Ah, Flair! I remember them well.

Someone posted a super-closeup shot of the fake Marquard and you're right, it looks like it could have been done with a felt tipped marker which was common from the late 60's and 70's.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

There's also the felt-tipped marker pens that came out right around the same time as ball point pens in the 1960's. They produce lines that look like sharpies at first glance.

Thank you for mentioning this. Many people seem to refer to any felt tip signature as a "Sharpie," but it's simply not true. The old water-based felt tip markers (Flair and others) have been in common use much longer than Sharpies.

This was signed with a felt tip pen in July 1969. It was not a Sharpie.

[frankbmd]

Only dullards don’t use Sharpies.