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Old 11-25-2018, 06:56 PM
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Good chance Clean Sweep knows who the forger is, or at least whoever is working as the fence for the forger.
I'd be inclined to bring this to the attention of the authorities in an effort to further clean out this hobby. The hope is that Verk and JSA come out clean and just look a little foolish. It'd be nice to get the forger or people trying to pass it off.

There should be a few good leads out there:

Who requested the authentication?
Who owned the card when it was sent to JSA?

Card was authenticated on/about 22AUG18, around 2-3 weeks prior to the start of the auction.

You have to figure there is a consignor on record and a check was written to that person.

What really blows me away is the fact JSA passed it. They're looking pretty silly as an authenticator at this point.

I suppose nothing should really surprise us anymore when it comes to this hobby.

May be time to re-evaluate this hobby....
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Old 11-25-2018, 07:01 PM
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Maybe also see somehow who bought it graded. I can only imagine the blame game coming down the line
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Old 11-25-2018, 07:10 PM
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SetBuilder - Manny great detective work! On the trail of grading and auto authentication both companies probably have a name and order on file - more than likely also credit card numbers.... should easily be enough for the LEO's to track down and prosecute...
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Man all of those Williams down the line look like they were signed with the same type of pen as the Marquard.
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Now to only find out who purchased it/submitted it....
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Maybe the sale is on VCP? We could see the seller and buyer, or at least it's a start. I'm not sure worth point had than info
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This is why you have to be insane to spend a lot of money on a "signed" card.
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I am told by a very reliable source that the autograph was authenticated by Jimmy Spence himself at the CleanSweep Auctions office.
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