What say ya???

[rhettyeakley]

It has always been easier for Managers & executives to be voted in these types of things so Steinbrenner probably gets in, and Pinella has an outside shot as well.

Of the players I think Will Clark is the best of that bunch and has a chance but he isn’t very well liked so that may not happen. Lee Smith has an outside chance but I just don’t see it happening. Strange group if you ask me. There are so many players that are equally as good as players on this list and not there... Mattingly, Tony Fernandez, Julio Franco, Mark Grace, John Olerud, Paul O’Neill, etc.

[OldOriole]

Breaking down the members of the Hall of Fame is interesting. Some may say categories are over or under represented. Take these numbers for what they are worth...

Players = 255
Executives = 35
Managers = 23

[timn1]

I always liked Baines and Hershiser a lot as players, but I just don't see any of these guys as true HOFers. Steinbrenner? I guess, maybe, although I'd have to hold my nose as I went by his plaque in the HOF.

On second thought: Heck, put the Bulldog (O.H.) in there - he had a heck of a career and was brilliant in postseason-

[Fred]

Albert "don't call me Joey" Belle looks like a good pick.

I like Joe Carter and the 10 x 100 RBI season, but that .259 lifetime BA doesn't help. If it's any consolation, there have been players with lesser qualifications inducted so Joe is my "why not" player.

Orel with only one 20 game win season and barely over 200 lifetime wins misses as does Harold Baines, even though he had large lifetime totals, he was never dominant and he played a long time (nice guy, though).

The one thing I liked about that Stein guy is that he wanted to WIN. I wish he owned the team I cry over every year. He reminds me of baseball's Donald Trump. Or should I say Donald Trump is the political mirror of George. I'm on the fence with him.

I'm right in the middle of Bill James book on the BB HOF. It was written a while ago, but it's an interesting read and great perspective on the HOF and the guys that have been enshrined.

[pclpads]

None of them blow my socks off. HOF worthy? Uh, no. If any of these names get in, the next step for the HOF is to begin a new wing for the, "Good-Very Good.

[nat]

Steinbrenner will get in. On what criteria one votes for owners, I don't know, so I won't try to pass judgment on that one. The players are all very weak selections. Belle is basically the same player as Jim Rice, just less of it. And Rice was a terrible hall pick. I really don't see any of the players getting elected - unless the voters go crazy for Lee Smith's saves - and that's really the way it should be.

[btcarfagno]

Belle and Steinbrenner definitely. Piniella maybe. Carter maybe. Lee Smith maybe. The rest no. Will Clark not a total no but close. I was a big Harold Baines fan during his career. But no.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Fred

Albert "don't call me Joey" Belle looks like a good pick.

I like Joe Carter and the 10 x 100 RBI season, but that .259 lifetime BA doesn't help. If it's any consolation, there have been players with lesser qualifications inducted so Joe is my "why not" player.

Orel with only one 20 game win season and barely over 200 lifetime wins misses as does Harold Baines, even though he had large lifetime totals, he was never dominant and he played a long time (nice guy, though).

The one thing I liked about that Stein guy is that he wanted to WIN. I wish he owned the team I cry over every year. He reminds me of baseball's Donald Trump. Or should I say Donald Trump is the political mirror of George. I'm on the fence with him.

I'm right in the middle of Bill James book on the BB HOF. It was written a while ago, but it's an interesting read and great perspective on the HOF and the guys that have been enshrined.

I like Joe too.

"Joe Carter played 16 seasons for the Cubs, Indians, Padres, Blue Jays, Orioles and Giants, earning five All-Star Game selections and two Silver Slugger Awards as an outfielder. Finishing in the Top 10 of his league’s Most Valuable Player Award voting four times, Carter totaled at least 100 RBI in 10 seasons, a mark met or surpassed by only 17 other players in history. Batting third or fourth for the Blue Jays teams that won back-to-back World Series titles in 1992-93, Carter’s walk-off home run in Game 6 of the 1993 Fall Classic marked only the second time in history a World Series ended on a home run. The durable Carter played in 157-or-more games in eight seasons and totaled 396 home runs, 1,445 RBI and 231 stolen bases"

Steinbrenner is a no brainer to me but SI doesn't like any of them.
https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/11/05/ya...ella-lee-smith

[ncinin]

I realize some or many may completely disagree with this but players who retired in the modern era, 1980 on, and was on the regular HOF ballot and after 10 or 15 years did not get in the Hall-of-Fame simply do not belong and should not be considered again. Especially players who did not get enough votes in the regular ballot after one or two years to continue.

I am not saying a player should or should not be in the Hall-of-Fame but Joe Carter was on the ballot one year and received 19 votes, 3.8% and was dropped after one year. Based on that he does not belong. Albert Belle dropped off the ballot after two years. He does not belong and never considered again.

I understand players who played before the Hall-of-Fame began or in an era where voting criteria was different or someone like Piniella who was a better than average player who had a successful managerial career to be reevaluated but players who did not last for one to five years on the regular ballot and retired in the 1990's and 2000's should never be considered again.

I also see considering umpires, executives, etc that had not been voted on before.