Thoughts on PSA/PWCC-HE & PQ altered cards

[Rose4HOF]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1950-Bowman...QAAOSw4VpbzVEc

[jfkheat]

There have been many cards that one grading company gave a number grade to that another company said was altered. I have had it happen. I have had PSA say a card was altered and have them give it a grade the next time.

[pokerplyr80]

Sounds like BS to me. Who would crack out a card in a psa 6.5 holder with a high end pwcc sticker to send in to bvg? And if it's true it doesn't say much for the common sense of this seller. Either way I would stay away.

[Laxcat]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

There have been many cards that one grading company gave a number grade to that another company said was altered. I have had it happen. I have had PSA say a card was altered and have them give it a grade the next time.

My E90-1 Cobb came back from SGC as altered and they didn’t grade it. There were tiny specks of a scrapbook on the back. Waited 10 years and sent it to PSA and it came back a 2.5

I don’t even bother to question their methods anymore.

[swarmee]

Yeah, seems like nothing to worry about here. Just because BGS claims it's altered, doesn't mean it is. If the guy bought the card hoping/wishing for the bump, he would have sent it back to PSA as a review submission.

[swarmee]

*double post*

[Rose4HOF]

Originally Posted by Laxcat

My E90-1 Cobb came back from SGC as altered and they didn’t grade it. There were tiny specks of a scrapbook on the back. Waited 10 years and sent it to PSA and it came back a 2.5

I don’t even bother to question their methods anymore.

I once read that grading is progressive and the more they grade a card, the more knowledge is accumulated. Of course that just gets more confusing as some cards seem to now be allowed leeway while others will seem to be forever held to a ridiculous standard.

[maximus35]

The big issue I see with all TPG’s is if your an expert grader, how can you not tell If a card is trimmed? True some card doctors are very good at what they do but if the card was trimmed, a professional should be able to catch it...especially when looking at the card while magnified. It seems to me Beckett is better at catching trimmed cards. I’ve had several cards originally graded by PSA I cracked and sent to Beckett in hopes of getting a higher grade and some have come back altered. I would then send them back to PSA and sometimes they would slab it and other times say it was altered.