Hey, pennant guys

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Yeah, Erik, great pennants!

So......Mays played for the Millers and the hockey team was the Millers. What is it they “mill” in Minneapolis.

They used to mill almost all of the flour in Minneapolis. General Mills, Pillsbury, and many others were all here back in the day. There are more Fortune 500 headquarters in the Mpls area than one would expect

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

They used to mill almost all of the flour in Minneapolis. General Mills, Pillsbury, and many others were all here back in the day. There are more Fortune 500 headquarters in the Mpls area than one would expect

Good to know!

[erikc21]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

They used to mill almost all of the flour in Minneapolis. General Mills, Pillsbury, and many others were all here back in the day. There are more Fortune 500 headquarters in the Mpls area than one would expect

I like the beer angle better

[Domer05]

I just posted some new content on my BLOG that many of you may enjoy. First, as mentioned earlier, I did some follow-up research on Trench and discovered a whole bunch of pre-1950s baseball and football pennants attributable to them. When I first wrote that piece, I was under the impression they didn't get into professional sports pennants until the mid-1950s or so. That proved not to be the case. Look for updates in the baseball and football sub-headings of that post. I also updated the maker's mark section at the end to include a sub-section on distinctive artwork unique to Trench

Have a look: https://pennantfever.weebly.com/blog.../trench-mfg-co.

Second, I just posted a whole new piece dedicated to ADFLAG. I tried to maintain the same format as used with prior posts; however, based on your feedback, I added more pennant pictures; and, a team library, dedicated to certain teams ADFLAG was especially involved with. Like the Trench post, I also added a distinctive artwork sub-section. You can find this piece here: https://pennantfever.weebly.com/blog...tising-flag-co

I hope you all enjoy it.

[ooo-ribay]

FANTASTIC stuff, Kyle! You should do a book. I lament the fact that Paul Muchinsky’s pinback book kind of stands alone when it comes to research and completeness of a particular collecting interest. It is a joy to learn from your research!

[ooo-ribay]

I did notice one thing in your Trench info that I have to take exception to. You mention that the left handed batter in front of a moon-like baseball "was always monochromatic." I have many pennants where he is multi colored. The third pennant shows a monochromatic batter but with different text. The forth pennant shows our guy plopped into Candlestick Park.

[bocca001]

Good grief, Rob. Just when I think I know about all of the Giants pennants, you add something new (to me). I don't think you've ever posted the one with Candlestick that says "National League Champions." Pretty cool.

[perezfan]

Kyle...

Those write-ups were fantastic. Thanks for sharing all of your vast research and insights. It's helped me to appreciate and understand this wonderful segment of the hobby to an even greater extent than before.

Great work!

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Good grief, Rob. Just when I think I know about all of the Giants pennants, you add something new (to me). I don't think you've ever posted the one with Candlestick that says "National League Champions." Pretty cool.

Here's a couple more of that weird style. I'm sure you've seen the white one. I've also seen that one on green, blue and orange backgrounds.

[Fballguy]

Great read over coffee this morning...Still need to go through my pennants and search for tags and maker marks. But thanks to your research, I have a much better idea of who made a lot of my pennants. Particularly interesting is the slight variations made by competing companies. I've got a few of those I've been wondering about. Will try to post some pics to get your thoughts.

Do you know who made the AFL/NFL single bar face mask helmet pennants of the mid-60s to early 70's? Was that Trench? There are so many variations of those, I wondered if it was just one company making them. I know Canteen Corp has a set, but theirs look slightly different in design than the more commonly seen ones.

Originally Posted by Domer05

I just posted some new content on my BLOG that many of you may enjoy. First, as mentioned earlier, I did some follow-up research on Trench and discovered a whole bunch of pre-1950s baseball and football pennants attributable to them. When I first wrote that piece, I was under the impression they didn't get into professional sports pennants until the mid-1950s or so. That proved not to be the case. Look for updates in the baseball and football sub-headings of that post. I also updated the maker's mark section at the end to include a sub-section on distinctive artwork unique to Trench

Have a look: https://pennantfever.weebly.com/blog.../trench-mfg-co.

Second, I just posted a whole new piece dedicated to ADFLAG. I tried to maintain the same format as used with prior posts; however, based on your feedback, I added more pennant pictures; and, a team library, dedicated to certain teams ADFLAG was especially involved with. Like the Trench post, I also added a distinctive artwork sub-section. You can find this piece here: https://pennantfever.weebly.com/blog...tising-flag-co

I hope you all enjoy it.

[Domer05]

My impression is that the NFL single bar pennants were all made by Trench.

Also, as to Canteen Corp., I covered them in my Trench post. They were actually a concessionaire, not a pennant manufacturer. When you see their name on a pennant it is a concessionaire's mark rather than a maker's mark. And, this was a design element that, to the best of my knowledge, only Trench did (first with Sportservice, then ARA, then Canteen).

As some of the single bar helmet pennants have this concessionaire's mark, that seems to support the idea that Trench made these.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Domer05

My impression is that the NFL single bar pennants were all made by Trench.

Also, as to Canteen Corp., I covered them in my Trench post. They were actually a concessionaire, not a pennant manufacturer. When you see their name on a pennant it is a concessionaire's mark rather than a maker's mark. And, this was a design element that, to the best of my knowledge, only Trench did (first with Sportservice, then ARA, then Canteen).

As some of the single bar helmet pennants have this concessionaire's mark, that seems to support the idea that Trench made these.

Yes...Saw that. But the Canteen Corp pennants also have a different helmet on them compared to the usual single bar pennant. Do concessionaire's marks typically come with a unique design?

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Yes...Saw that. But the Canteen Corp pennants also have a different helmet on them compared to the usual single bar pennant. Do concessionaire's marks typically come with a unique design?

Hmmm, I didn't realize there were differences in the single bar helmet pennants. Nor can I think of any reason for varying the designs of the helmets for pennants made for Canteen or any other concessionaire.

Maybe Trench modified or updated the design over the few years they used single bar helmets?