Hey, pennant guys

[perezfan]

Nice pennants and heck of an upgrade, Marc!

What an awesome early pennant. Matt (pennant dynasty) is a great guy and has helped me out countless times. He really has an eye for the good stuff, and is one of the best (if not the very best) ebay dealers.

[Fballguy]

Since we're showing San Francisco pennants...This is a recent addition. Not sure why, but I love these star spangled variations.

[bocca001]

Nice, Rob. Would love to see more SF/Bay Area pennants. I wonder if ooo-ribay has any SF pennants that he has never shown?

I'm also curious to know when the single bar helmet pennants came into existence. I assume that they exist for every NFL and AFL team (that was in existence in the 1960s)?

[Fballguy]

Yes...There are single bar face mask pennants for every team in existence from 1963-1976 including the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but excluding (as far as I can tell) the Seattle Seahawks. Many teams have multiple variations.

I say 1963 because all AFL teams* (note the asterisk there...more on that in a minute) have single bar face mask pennants except the Dallas Texans and the New York Titans...who both ceased to exist by 1963.

*One anomaly regarding AFL teams. All post 1963 AFL teams, including the Bengals who were the last team to join the AFL, have single bar pennants with the AFL logo...except apparently the Miami Dolphins. I have never seen and can't find evidence of a Dolphins single bar pennant with the AFL logo (NFL logo or no logo yes). Initially, I thought it was because the Dolphins joined the AFL too late, but the Bengals joined later. Anybody have one?

Rob

[Fballguy]

Speaking of football pennant anomalies...I love this style of pennant. College teams show up in this style more often than pro, but there are several pro teams out there. I attribute these to the early 60s.

The anomaly...For pro versions of this pennant, the only teams I've ever seen have come from the old NFL East Division. I've seen Giants, Eagles, Browns and Steelers. No teams from the West Division...Rams, Packers, Colts, 49ers, Bears, Lions or Vikings.

Coincidence? Or was there a different style for the West? The Rams, Packers, Colts etc do have similarly colorful pennants in this era...but very different designs.

Sidenote...If anyone has a pro version of this pennant, I'd love to see a picture and would be interested in buying.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Speaking of football pennant anomalies...I love this style of pennant. College teams show up in this style more often than pro, but there are several pro teams out there. I attribute these to the early 60s.

The anomaly...For pro versions of this pennant, the only teams I've ever seen have come from the old NFL East Division. I've seen Giants, Eagles, Browns and Steelers. No teams from the West Division...Rams, Packers, Colts, 49ers, Bears, Lions or Vikings.

Coincidence? Or was there a different style for the West? The Rams, Packers, Colts etc do have similarly colorful pennants in this era...but very different designs.

Sidenote...If anyone has a pro version of this pennant, I'd love to see a picture and would be interested in buying.

Kind of similar to these....the black one has the big guy, surrounded by small guys and the red one has the stars and a very similar "New York."

[bocca001]

Thanks for the info on the single bar pennants, Fballguy.

I just noticed that my new 49ers pickup has a Trench label on it. From Domer's website, that would seem to date it to the early 60's.