baseball playoffs

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Well AL parks have a DH and they dont get to walk players with 2 outs to face a the pitcher......

A simplistic response to a simplistic observation.

So whichever league has the home field advantage in the WS wins.

I did not know that.

I wonder if the bookies in Vegas know that.

Readers of this thread are sure to place their bets accordingly and win.

[ALR-bishop]

Read an article today entitled The Kershawsheck Redemption

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Read an article today entitled The Kershawsheck Redemption

it's bad enough that we get the pro/con kershaw post here after every one of his start...but actual highly respected baseball writers who get paid to make insightful observations about the game also live and die with every october kershaw start. it is what it is, the kershaw conundrum has jumped the shark a few years and a dozen articles ago...he's not as bad as the numbers suggest but absolutely has not been the dominant regular season kershaw either. until his team wins a world series he will always have that monkey on his back. that's about as objective as i can be being a lifetime dodgers fan.

[Dewey]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

it's bad enough that we get the pro/con kershaw post here after every one of his start...but actual highly respected baseball writers who get paid to make insightful observations about the game also live and die with every october kershaw start. it is what it is, the kershaw conundrum has jumped the shark a few years and a dozen articles ago...he's not as bad as the numbers suggest but absolutely has not been the dominant regular season kershaw either. until his team wins a world series he will always have that monkey on his back. that's about as objective as i can be being a lifetime dodgers fan.

Agree with this. Kersh has had some clutch postseason performances, game 1 of the world series to name one. He's had some stinkers, a couple that especially hurt because of 7th inning implosions in the midst of dominating performances. A couple others where he got shelled. He's no choker, but not consistently the best regular season pitcher I've personally seen with my own eyes either.

[barrysloate]

Pretty surprising that Houston got swept at home. Despite the bad call on the Altuve homer, Boston was simply the better team.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

A simplistic response to a simplistic observation.

So whichever league has the home field advantage in the WS wins.

I did not know that.

I wonder if the bookies in Vegas know that.

Readers of this thread are sure to place their bets accordingly and win.

now that was a simplistic response, but yeah look at the run totals in Vegas for AL games versus NL games..the run totals are higher in AL games.....

I would also bet that the production of the DH in the AL is greater than NL pitchers that hit....hopefully the bookies dont know that..

[Dewey]

Los Doyers.

Let's go!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Can argue all we want about DH output v pitchers but you have to say at least it makes the games much more interesting in the NL about when to pull your starter/relievers based on when your pitcher is hitting etc.

Lots of drama in pulling Chacin after 2 innings which would not have been a decision to make in the AL for example...also pulling Hader for pinch hitter..

The managing impact appears to involve a lot more strategy in NL v. AL....again a simplistic statement but thats me...

[Dewey]

Counsell overmanaged. Period. Thanks Craig.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Dewey

Counsell overmanaged. Period. Thanks Craig.

A lineup of craig counsels probably scores more than 1 run though


Its not like Vegas picked the brewers...he went 7 games...never understood how losing managers can be blamed when they cover the spread

if coach loses every game but covers spread every game...no way i would fire him..

[stlcardsfan]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Can argue all we want about DH output v pitchers but you have to say at least it makes the games much more interesting in the NL about when to pull your starter/relievers based on when your pitcher is hitting etc.

Lots of drama in pulling Chacin after 2 innings which would not have been a decision to make in the AL for example...also pulling Hader for pinch hitter..

The managing impact appears to involve a lot more strategy in NL v. AL....again a simplistic statement but thats me...

+1. And if they ever go all DH it will be a crying shame....

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Can argue all we want about DH output v pitchers but you have to say at least it makes the games much more interesting in the NL about when to pull your starter/relievers based on when your pitcher is hitting etc.

Lots of drama in pulling Chacin after 2 innings which would not have been a decision to make in the AL for example...also pulling Hader for pinch hitter..

The managing impact appears to involve a lot more strategy in NL v. AL....again a simplistic statement but thats me...

I wholeheartedly agree. Both leagues used to play the same game. The DH created the bifurcation. The old game, the current NL game, increases the complexity of managerial decisions during the game. During the playoffs Roberts always appeared to be watching, while Counsell always appeared to be thinking. Counsell made a number of questionable decisions. Many worked out to my surprise. A few didn’t.

Should Counsell be fired? Hell no. The Brewers, a small market team with a low payroll, got within one game of the WS with a single ten game winner.

Counsell was playing chess with 12 pieces on the board. Their opponents played with 16.

[chaddurbin]

with the new analytical approach, the baseball manager role has been marginalized. imo dave roberts is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the front office, a liason in communication between the fo and the players, and a day-to-day motivator for the players. he probably gets a folder everyday with different situational approaches and what moves need to be made to counteract that. lineup cards, pitch count, matchups etc, there's no way dave roberts is acting on his own in any of those decisions. i mean last year in the playoffs against the cubs the outfielders were wearing gps trackers so they would know the EXACT spot to stand on the field...this front office is leaving nothing to chance and pushing every .01 percent they could so roberts is mainly the RAH RAH guy.

saying all that red sox is the superior team, sox in 5.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Nice outing by Clayton.