PWCC and Probstein "best offer" listings questions

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by silvor

I will sometimes explain why I am making that particular offer. It usually helps.

Something like, last 3 sales were $505, $515 and $525. So my offer is $550.

But yeah, I can't believe Probstein or PWCC cares.

+ I agree with this. Did this at the national with several successful purchases; all over VCP, but just not the 3x that they wanted. Sellers that want to do business appreciate an educated buyer. Sellers that are looking for suckers don't.

[JollyElm]

How would a person with even a single brain cell in their head begin to make an offer on this one???...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-...nIn:rk:14:pf:0

[jchcollins]

I've submitted best offers to PWCC before, and they will come down some (I think the latest was like $10 on a $250 card) but not dramatically. So it wasn't worth haggling with them on a card that I felt was overpriced by at least $75 to start with. 707 up in PA is the same way. They'll budge a tiny bit, but if you start trying to go back and forth with them they will just decline the offer.

I do love the "Accepts Offers" feature however for some sellers that aren't nationally known dealers. It can be surprising how quickly someone wants to move something once the process starts. If memory serves I got a '67 high # Jim Bunning that started well over $100 down to like $60 in a matter of about an hour going back and forth with a seller.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

How would a person with even a single brain cell in their head begin to make an offer on this one???...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-...nIn:rk:14:pf:0

Not sure what your issue is with this listing. Price might be a touch high, but definitely within negotiating range. Hell, it's practically half-price if you compare it to Dean's Cards PSA 8 lol.

EDIT: Offer isn't even an option, so now I REALLY don't know what you were trying to say.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Hell, it's practically half-price if you compare it to Dean's Cards PSA 8 lol.

Does Dean's actually sell anything at the listed prices on their site? Ridiculous would be putting it mildly. I've seen some mid-grade vintage stars listed on that site for 2, 3 times what I paid for my copy, and in many cases my copy is a PSA graded example that was bought for a reasonable BIN on eBay without any type of fight due to demand...

I can understand pricing "on the high side" if you are lazy to the extent you just dial up the most convenient website and pay a la carte menu rates, but Dean's blows even that notion out of the water.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Actually I was just researching some non-sport stuff and found a couple listings (not many) of his that weren't certifiably insane.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Actually I was just researching some non-sport stuff and found a couple listings (not many) of his that weren't certifiably insane.

1967 Topps high number 600, Brooks Robinson PSA 6: Dean’s cards list price after his “10% discount“… $409.

I bought the same card off eBay, graded SGC 5.5 and mine is centered better than his: $125.

This is not to say that Dean doesn’t have some material on his site reasonably priced, I don’t know… But the example above is just the kind of thing I always seem to notice.


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[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Not sure what your issue is with this listing. Price might be a touch high, but definitely within negotiating range. Hell, it's practically half-price if you compare it to Dean's Cards PSA 8 lol.

EDIT: Offer isn't even an option, so now I REALLY don't know what you were trying to say.

My "issue" with it (and it was sorta tongue in cheek) was their $20,000 (yes, 20 frickin' grand!!) asking price. They obviously changed the listing, and eliminated the "make an offer" option, since I posted that a week ago.

[Rose4HOF]

If the price is so absurd to begin with, I just pass it up. With most everyone getting free listings, I honestly think many use eBay just to display their cards. I have used vcp and recent prices in some offers and some of the responses have been interesting. Had one yesterday where the guy came back with a message that he doesnt use VCP and goes by SMR. He then pointed out how VCP lacked any information on so many of his rare cards and how SMR had prices for all. Honestly, I looked up some of his cards and was shocked at the SMR price. I always thought it was lower.....