How much grading has changed

[Leon]

I agree with Greg on this one.
1.5 with a purple sticker or a 2, today. Nice looking card though.

Originally Posted by Throttlesteer

I'm reminded daily how much tougher PSA and SGC are getting with grades. Nothing against this card, it's a nice WaJo. But, I wonder if this could get a 2 now, let alone a 3

https://www.ebay.com/itm/T206-Sweet-...ss!98665!US!-1

[ullmandds]

The inconsistency of the TPG'ers kinda renders their "opinions" useless...to me!!!

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I opened the link expecting to see something I thought was VG, but honestly I'm surprised that ever got a "3." any one of the issues (heavily rounded corners, semi circle crease, light paper loss) could've dinged it to a "3" all of them together and I feel it's a "2" all the way.

Does anyone else have the experience of creasing a card the way the Wajo is? usually it's on the top and comes from pushing it into a holder to forecfully, and yes, I've done it. Instant semi-circle crease.

[VoodooChild]

Are they tougher on paper loss now? I've seen cards with the same amount of paper loss on the back get a "1" and this one has it right on his chin which totally takes away from the eye appeal for me. I would not buy that card at a "3" price. The crease and rounded corners I don't mind at all and I'm not even sure I'd buy that at a "1.5" price because of where the paper loss is. Now, if the paper loss like that was on the back or somewhere else on the front (not on his face) and it was graded a "1.5" then that's right up my alley.

[AGuinness]

Just curious - do people think that the tougher grading today is 1) more strict adherence to the grading standards set years ago which haven't changed or 2) a shift in the grading standards from those originally set forth?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by AGuinness

Just curious - do people think that the tougher grading today is 1) more strict adherence to the grading standards set years ago which haven't changed or 2) a shift in the grading standards from those originally set forth?

1&2 sound kinda the same to me??

[cardsnstuff]

So here is an interesting question; perhaps it should be it's own thread. But, for now I'll piggy back here; since PSA guarentee's their grades for lifetime; if you have a older slab PSA 10; that would never get a PSA 10 in today's world and you submit for a new holder, does it

a) get a new holder PSA 10
b) get a new holder - lower grade
c) get a lower grade and you get reimbursed for the difference

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

if you have a older slab PSA 10; that would never get a PSA 10 in today's world and you submit for a new holder, does it
a) get a new holder PSA 10
b) get a new holder - lower grade
c) get a lower grade and you get reimbursed for the difference

Depends on how you write the submission form. If you select "reholder" and the holder isn't tampered with, they take the 10 it originally is and print a new label and slab it.
If you select "review" and put a much lower grade in than the current grade, they are supposed to lower the grade. That would trigger the guarantee, and PSA would have to figure out the difference in values and reimburse you the difference. That's what I've talked about most recently in the T206 set thread that's ending tonight. Many of those 10s would be 7.5s or worse right now.

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

1&2 sound kinda the same to me??

1 means that there were standards established, but perhaps early in grading there was more gray area for graders, and graders are now more strictly adhering to the established standards.

2 means that standards were established, but have shifted since then and are now something different.

1 is a change in the graders, 2 is a change in the grading.


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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by AGuinness

1 means that there were standards established, but perhaps early in grading there was more gray area for graders, and graders are now more strictly adhering to the established standards.

2 means that standards were established, but have shifted since then and are now something different.

1 is a change in the graders, 2 is a change in the grading.


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I think Pete may be saying that if it all comes out to the same place what's the difference.