Harsh SGC grades

[calvindog]

a) there's no back scans; b) you can't see minor wrinkling from a scan.

[TheRocket9]

Must be a surface wrinkle somewhere.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Brent says the upper corners of the Ruth have surface wear. Still, a hell of a card.

[Shankweather]

Originally Posted by calvindog

a) there's no back scans; b) you can't see minor wrinkling from a scan.

The auctions have back scans and they look fine. PWCC usually discloses hard to see imperfections, particularly on high-end cards like this.

[irv]

I've always said SGC grades cards harshly but they'd be the company I would choose to send my cards to.

[iowadoc77]

The E95 Cobb is really cool. Nice big borders on that one!

[Pat R]

We see cards that look over and under-graded by all the TPG's
but it's funny you started this thread about the harsh grades.
When I saw this Tenney I was thinking how did it get a 7
with those corners especially the top left.
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[Throttlesteer]

The top right and bottom left corners on the Ruth. It also seems to have some surface wear and possibly a small wrinkle on the bottom right, maybe 1/10 of the way up. Honestly, the only one that jumps out at me is the E95 Cobb. But, as pointed out, there may be surface wrinkles not obvious in the scan. The WaJo might actually be overgraded, given the corner wear and toning spots.

[rats60]

The upper right hand corner of the Ruth is missing the top layer of the card. The Cobb has wear on all 4 corners and is missing part of the top left corner. The Johnson has some minor wear on all 4 corners. I have had cards nicer than those receive those grades or lower.

[RedsFan1941]

every card ever submitted has been undergraded, according to the submitter.

every card being offered for sale is undergraded, according to the seller.

Every card being offered for sale is overgraded, according to the buyer.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rats60

The upper right hand corner of the Ruth is missing the top layer of the card. The Cobb has wear on all 4 corners and is missing part of the top left corner. The Johnson has some minor wear on all 4 corners. I have had cards nicer than those receive those grades or lower.

Man, if you were a grader nothing except a 2018 card out of a pack would ever get a 9 or even an 8. Brutal assessment lol.

[orly57]

I’m loving the new SGC flips. And the SGC holders frame cards so beautifully.

[toledo_mudhen]

Not that it should matter but the Tenney SGC slab is circa 2005-2008

Originally Posted by Pat R

We see cards that look over and under-graded by all the TPG's
but it's funny you started this thread about the harsh grades.
When I saw this Tenney I was thinking how did it get a 7
with those corners especially the top left.
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[glynparson]

The cards look accurately graded from the pictures. The Ruth looks like it could be a 5 to me from the pic so a 4.5 is a tiny bit low but the others look right on point. And in hand it could easily look like a 4.5. The other 2 i honestly think PSA would have the same grades minus the .5 bumps. Cards have some definite issues. THe Johnson is nowhere close to a 7. They have nice to decent eye appeal but like i try to often point out eye appeal is not the same thing as technical grade.

[BigBeerGut]

Originally Posted by Pat R

We see cards that look over and under-graded by all the TPG's
but it's funny you started this thread about the harsh grades.
When I saw this Tenney I was thinking how did it get a 7
with those corners especially the top left.
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Fact old gold sgc encasing is no bueno