BGS Turnaround Time: Up to One Year

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I cannot agree more with the thoughts voiced on this thread.

A year is absurd: hire and train some more people, for crissakes. What BGS is doing is just crappy customer service.

I also agree that the grading lottery is way worse with BGS than with PSA because of the silliness of the subgrades. I submitted one card at the National in AC, and only because the PSA line was too long:



The card is spectacular. The subgrades are nonsense. The same set yielded these:





The three are identical in terms of condition.

... I had always wondered about how BGS graders arrived at their final grade because it obviously wasn't just an "average" of the four subs ; many years ago , just before 9/11 as I recall , at the Fort Washington,PA show , someone at their table explained to me that the values of the subs were weighted , with corners and centering counting the most , and surfaces and edges less so ; and in answer to a specific question he also told me why the particular sub-grade for "corners" was almost always the lowest of the four subs : " Beckett graders consider a sportscard to have eight corners i.e. the 4 on the front and then the other 4 on the reverse"---- sooooo all that plus the high value put upon that particular sub-grade is perhaps why we just shake our heads when the cards come back and mutter unkind words about Beckett graders.----- I have seen a BGS final grade of more than .5 higher than the 'corners' grade perhaps twice ?? in twenty years , and they were very low end cards to start with. PSA's 'eye appeal' factor doesn't exist in Texas. And I remember they gave me a very nice Beckett Tee-shirt.

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[rats60]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

... I had always wondered about how BGS graders arrived at their final grade because it obviously wasn't just an "average" of the four subs ; many years ago , just before 9/11 as I recall , at the Fort Washington,PA show , someone at their table explained to me that the values of the subs were weighted , with corners and centering counting the most , and surfaces and edges less so ; and in answer to a specific question he also told me why the particular sub-grade for "corners" was almost always the lowest of the four subs : " Beckett graders consider a sportscard to have eight corners i.e. the 4 on the front and then the other 4 on the reverse"---- sooooo all that plus the high value put upon that particular sub-grade is perhaps why we just shake our heads when the cards come back and mutter unkind words about Beckett graders.----- I have seen a BGS final grade of more than .5 higher than the 'corners' grade perhaps twice ?? in twenty years , and they were very low end cards to start with. PSA's 'eye appeal' factor doesn't exist in Texas. And I remember they gave me a very nice Beckett Tee-shirt.

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[Peter_Spaeth]

I thought the overall grade could not be more than .5 higher than the lowest sub but maybe I am wrong about that.

[Dpeck100]

Peter that was my understanding too.

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I thought the overall grade could not be more than .5 higher than the lowest sub but maybe I am wrong about that.

This is my understanding, too.

[rats60]

I have seen rare circumstances when it was 1 grade higher. For example if centering, corners and edges were really high, say 8-9 and surface was low, say 3, the card could be a 4.

[swarmee]

True, the grade can be up to one grade higher than the lowest subgrade, depending on the subgrade.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by swarmee

True, the grade can be up to one grade higher than the lowest subgrade, depending on the subgrade.

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...This has to be the Black Swan of Beckett Grading -- I take back what I had said earlier..but I must note that this had been graded during the more recent and less-strict-on-vintage "BVG /subs on front" period , and not by the old curmudgeonly "BGS" standards used until 2002..those days were absolutely brutal....

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[JollyElm]

OT: I have an SGC card graded a 5 and I'm wondering if there's a way to see what the sub-grades are on their site. The corners are sharp as heck, so I imagine the fact it is way o/c is the reason for the grade. Is that info available there?