Kudos to LOTG - discovered counterfeit #311 1952 Mantle PSA 1 in latest auction

[pokerplyr80]

Peter is that really the card in question? That looks terrible. Al did anyone look at the card before putting it in the auction? Did it look that bad in person?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Peter is that really the card in question? That looks terrible. Al did anyone look at the card before putting it in the auction? Did it look that bad in person?

Jesse, that scan is from the auction.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Jesse, that scan is from the auction.

I just went to the auction site and saw. Hard to believe it made it in. It looks like it was printed in someone's living room and had either some dirt or printer ink spread across the surface.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I just went to the auction site and saw. Hard to believe it made it in. It looks like it was printed in someone's living room and had either some dirt or printer ink spread across the surface.

And you were just asking in another thread how can the average collector catch something when the AH doesn't?

See, it happens.

[CrackaJackKid]

How many times are we gonna see PSA screw up again. I understand they’re all human but on a 52 Mantle, regardless of condition, I’m sure there would be many eyes on it in house before it left.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CrackaJackKid

How many times are we gonna see PSA screw up again. I understand they’re all human but on a 52 Mantle, regardless of condition, I’m sure there would be many eyes on it in house before it left.

Who says PSA screwed up, it's probably a Mexican or other hatchet job.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And you were just asking in another thread how can the average collector catch something when the AH doesn't?

See, it happens.

I had not looked at the auction lot but now looking back it, it is pretty obvious based on the scan Al provided online. I don't know Al but I think it goes without saying that it would not benefit him in anyway to have tried to pass it off as a legit card.

I think this is a perfect example of someone letting down their guard and assuming since a card is in a holder it is ok. Not sure any of us can be too careful no matter who we are buying from. Not everyone selling a "bad" card is doing it with the intent to screw you. Best to know as much as you can about what it is you are spending your money on.

[Peter_Spaeth]

No way did Al have bad intent, inconceivable. He should, however, have caught this on his own, but mistakes happen. All 52T Mantles should be scrutinized, period. And anyone considering buying one should take the time to learn the distinguishing characteristics of a real one.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And you were just asking in another thread how can the average collector catch something when the AH doesn't?

See, it happens.

I believe I prefaced my comment with something like unless they missed something obvious. I'd still like to hear an explanation on how they missed this one.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I believe I prefaced my comment with something like unless they missed something obvious. I'd still like to hear an explanation on how they missed this one.

It's hard to imagine there is an explanation except oversight. There is no way Al scrutinized the card and believed it to be real, he's too knowledgeable.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's hard to imagine there is an explanation except oversight. There is no way Al scrutinized the card and believed it to be real, he's too knowledgeable.

Didn't he just hire another person as well?