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Old 08-09-2018, 09:08 AM
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Thanks Garth :-)

So it jumped to 22 in This May??
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:37 AM
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Wish I could tell you, but that was the first time I really went out of my way to look at the population. It could have doubled between April and May for all I know!
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:05 AM
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It has been climbing for the past five years for sure. You might be able to look at some older auctions from PWCC, EBAY, and various auction houses to see what was quoted in the listing. It definitely didn't double overnight.
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:16 AM
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And to think When psa is stricter than it has ever been!

These could have gone to 11 way back when
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:56 PM
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I could be wrong but I feel his rookie 1993 SP card is way overvalued right now. Or it could be one of those cards that just transcends the hobby and will always be something that collectors hold in high regard like the Honus Wagner, Mantle Rookie, or even the Griffey Upper Deck Rookie.
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:10 PM
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I could be wrong but I feel his rookie 1993 SP card is way overvalued right now. Or it could be one of those cards that just transcends the hobby and will always be something that collectors hold in high regard like the Honus Wagner, Mantle Rookie, or even the Griffey Upper Deck Rookie.
The former assertion is correct, and the latter proposition totally absurd IMHO. As stated, check the OPS+, which alone has a 90+ % correlation to runs created. He was essentially Allan Trammell offensively, just not quite as good a fielder.

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Old 08-11-2018, 08:12 AM
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The NY Yankees and World Series wins is what puts his cards to that higher level. He became the face of the Yankees when they hadn't won a World Series in years and then became a dynasty...like most players whose cards are expensive...it becomes more than just stats. Otherwise Willie Mays cards would be worth more than Mantles...etc...



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The former assertion is correct, and the latter proposition totally absurd IMHO. As stated, check the OPS+, which alone has a 90+ % correlation to runs created. He was essentially Allan Trammell offensively, just not quite as good a fielder.

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Old 08-11-2018, 08:41 AM
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The former assertion is correct, and the latter proposition totally absurd IMHO. As stated, check the OPS+, which alone has a 90+ % correlation to runs created. He was essentially Allan Trammell offensively, just not quite as good a fielder.

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The people paying for that card may not have grown up when trammel was playing....its all in the timing...plus all of the playoffs/world series ..im sure when george foster was playing he was considered a star but now hes a common

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The former assertion is correct, and the latter proposition totally absurd IMHO. As stated, check the OPS+, which alone has a 90+ % correlation to runs created. He was essentially Allan Trammell offensively, just not quite as good a fielder.

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Jeter has a career oWAR of 96.3, 20th all time. That is higher than Jimmie Foxx, Mike Schmidt, Albert Pujols and Ken Gfiffey Jr. Alan Trammell has a career oWAR of 63, 83rd all time right between Bernie Williams and Larry Walker. People remember the offense and don't really care about defense. They care about championships, which Jeter leads 5 to 1. They care about his postseason records, including most hits, total bases and runs scored. They care about milestones like 3000 hits and being 6th all time in hits. That is why Jeter will be a 1st ballot HOFer with one of the highest vote % ever and Trammell couldn't get 75% of the vote from the baseball writers.
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