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Old 08-04-2018, 11:31 PM
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I'm all for steals. If something at a show is severely underpriced and the dealer says that they are sure that's what they want to sell it for, then go for it. It's on them to be knowledgeable about their product. But that's not the case here.

Clearly a pricing mistake. Most likely the buyer recognized that it was a pricing mistake as well. I'd have to assume very few people are looking to buy a Goudey Foxx without having an idea on what the going rate is.

Would it be cool if they honored it? Sure. Do I think they're bad people if they cancel the transaction? Absolutely not. People make mistakes. It's not like it's a modern card and they're cancelling the transaction because the player has gotten hot and prices have shot through the roof after the purchase.

If some of y'all think that sellers should be so honorable and fall on the sword, then shouldn't the buyer also have to have some decency? Shouldn't he have messaged them making sure that that was what they intended to price it at?

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Old 08-05-2018, 09:14 AM
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I'm all for steals. If something at a show is severely underpriced and the dealer says that they are sure that's what they want to sell it for, then go for it. It's on them to be knowledgeable about their product. But that's not the case here.

Clearly a pricing mistake. Most likely the buyer recognized that it was a pricing mistake as well. I'd have to assume very few people are looking to buy a Goudey Foxx without having an idea on what the going rate is.

Would it be cool if they honored it? Sure. Do I think they're bad people if they cancel the transaction? Absolutely not. People make mistakes. It's not like it's a modern card and they're cancelling the transaction because the player has gotten hot and prices have shot through the roof after the purchase.

If some of y'all think that sellers should be so honorable and fall on the sword, then shouldn't the buyer also have to have some decency? Shouldn't he have messaged them making sure that that was what they intended to price it at?

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The seller creates the listing, proofs the listing, then asked if they want to list the item.Thats plenty of opportunity to avoid a “mistake”. As a grown man and business owner not some guy just selling cards. Giving the buyer only has to press buy it now. You can’t say they need to do anything it’s being offered at this price from a professional company that’s been doing business for years.
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So what happens if I send a 50k 52 Mantle to probstein to list and some assistant of his puts it up for 5k by mistake and it instantly sells? Is he supposed to eat the 45k or am I?

I don't get this need to screw someone over for a simple and honest mistake.
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So what happens if I send a 50k 52 Mantle to probstein to list and some assistant of his puts it up for 5k by mistake and it instantly sells? Is he supposed to eat the 45k or am I?

I don't get this need to screw someone over for a simple and honest mistake.
Who knows we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it. It’s not that simple or honest of a mistake. The only person getting screwed is the buyer. By a blatant mistake and unhonest way of handling it.
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Who knows we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it. It’s not that simple or honest of a mistake. The only person getting screwed is the buyer. By a blatant mistake and unhonest way of handling it.
Totally disagree with this viewpoint. If I was the buyer I would HOPE the seller would stand by it but would offer zero resistance if they honestly explained their mistake.
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Who knows we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it. It’s not that simple or honest of a mistake. The only person getting screwed is the buyer. By a blatant mistake and unhonest way of handling it.
The buyer isn't getting screwed in this scenario. He isn't out his money and he didn't make out on a killer deal that was a mistake anyway. He didn't get screwed though. I'd say if the deal fell through and the card is now relisted correctly, then nobody got screwed and all is well again. Let's move on.
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The seller creates the listing, proofs the listing, then asked if they want to list the item.Thats plenty of opportunity to avoid a “mistake”. As a grown man and business owner not some guy just selling cards. Giving the buyer only has to press buy it now. You can’t say they need to do anything it’s being offered at this price from a professional company that’s been doing business for years.
Owning your mistakes is a part of life. Not all mistakes are avoidable this one is.
Well, you are just wrong. The card has been relisted at a higher price. So, the sale was cancelled. This is EBay's policy, what you or I think doesn't matter. At least in this instance it is good to see EBay siding with the seller.

Not all mistakes need to be owned up to. Maybe if the sale was in Massachusetts, you would have a point. However, that is a good reason for business owners to avoid states like that. No state that I have lived in has had such unfriendly to business policies.
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Well, you are just wrong. The card has been relisted at a higher price. So, the sale was cancelled. This is EBay's policy, what you or I think doesn't matter. At least in this instance it is good to see EBay siding with the seller.

Not all mistakes need to be owned up to. Maybe if the sale was in Massachusetts, you would have a point. However, that is a good reason for business owners to avoid states like that. No state that I have lived in has had such unfriendly to business policies.
How does the card being delisted make me wrong? You have have to own all your mistakes lol. That’s not a arming point.
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Other instances it may be another buyer emailing the seller telling them the price was too low, or offering more.
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How does the card being delisted make me wrong? You have have to own all your mistakes lol. That’s not a arming point.
How is the seller having to own his mistake? In this case he is not. Some people are forgiving. I posted earlier that I had someone hit one of my buy it nows and then asked to cancel the sale. I could have just kept the money and taken a negative. However, I don't want to be like that. I refunded his money and relisted the item. In this case EBay is being forgiving of an honest mistake and not making the seller own his mistake.
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So maybe the buyer is forgiving. It doesn’t mean you don’t have to own your mistake.even if the buyer is not it doesn’t mean Probstein did the right thing. It really doesn’t matter how you cut it. When the buyer press buy it now the entered in to a legal agreement. Where canceling the order is against the rules of eBay. The seller had enough chances to get the listing right. You do have to own your mistakes. I’m sure plenty of people wish they didn’t make a mistake that cost them a thousand dollars. I’m sure a lot of people wish they could weasel out of it. I’m sure some might be forgiven. Like when you get caught speeding sometimes the cop say keep it moving and slow down. Other times they hit you with everything they could. It doesn’t mean you were speeding unperpose. You can’t tell the judge I didn’t mean to speed so see you around.
Most people would live if they didn’t HAVE to pay the ticket or go to court but they are forced to.
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So maybe the buyer is forgiving. It doesn’t mean you don’t have to own your mistake.even if the buyer is not it doesn’t mean Probstein did the right thing. It really doesn’t matter how you cut it. When the buyer press buy it now the entered in to a legal agreement. Where canceling the order is against the rules of eBay. The seller had enough chances to get the listing right. You do have to own your mistakes. I’m sure plenty of people wish they didn’t make a mistake that cost them a thousand dollars. I’m sure a lot of people wish they could weasel out of it. I’m sure some might be forgiven. Like when you get caught speeding sometimes the cop say keep it moving and slow down. Other times they hit you with everything they could. It doesn’t mean you were speeding unperpose. You can’t tell the judge I didn’t mean to speed so see you around.
Most people would live if they didn’t HAVE to pay the ticket or go to court but they are forced to.
A seller cancelling a a winning bid after the fact is not against eBay policy.
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/ge...action?id=4136

All your other anecdotal rhetoric is meaningless.

Unless the buyer of this card can show some kind of intentional fraud and misrepresentation in regards to the listing and actions of the seller, the buyer would have no legal case.

The subject at hand isn't as convoluted as some are trying to make it.

Like it or not, the seller made a mistake and per eBay policy, had the option to cancel the sale and did so.
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