New Helmar series--highly unusual--your thoughts?

[swarmee]

Design is a rip off of Topps Allen & Ginter framed minis.

[Paul S]

Overwrought

[GregMitch34]

Little in common with that Topps thlng but if you don't like, fine, I don't own share of the company.

[Paul S]

Not that I dislike the cards, but if they distributed them like Hires in 1958, I could be a Yuengling person

[GregMitch34]

That's a little too deep for me....

[Republicaninmass]

Portuguese cork, isn't all cork from Portugal? I have quite a few items imported from far off China!


I cant see it being a piece of art, and using the name of an old badeball related company just doesn't sit well with me. Probably better than Banty Red, which is just a completely made up company to sell baseball cards, but it doesn't tick any boxes of reasons, or items I collect. I cant see them holding any value, which is a secondary reason I collect. Then again a card can have 30 different 1/1 parallels and people will buy them up.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I kinda like them, I just wish they'd dial back on the hype. They're very nice fantasy pieces.

[sirraffles]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Portuguese cork, isn't all cork from Portugal? I have quite a few items imported from far off China!


I cant see it being a piece of art, and using the name of an old badeball related company just doesn't sit well with me. Probably better than Banty Red, which is just a completely made up company to sell baseball cards, but it doesn't tick any boxes of reasons, or items I collect. I cant see them holding any value, which is a secondary reason I collect. Then again a card can have 30 different 1/1 parallels and people will buy them up.

Actually cork grows in a number of different places but the best cork is from Portugal. I looked at samples from three different countries before deciding on Portuguese cork. The North African cork seemed to crumble too easily for my taste; I worried that over time it would become too brittle. French cork, at least the samples that I examined, had an odd hue.

As for the name "Helmar", it is perfect for my purposes. There are those that would complain no matter which name had been chosen, even if this seems beyond silly to me.

Importantly, Helmar does not even try to appeal to everyone because that would mean trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. We'd have to lower the quality and ignore the discernment that we've become known for. I'll take collectors that are knowledgeable about art and history every time. We love everyone but it is interesting that our customers skew to occupations such as authors, attorneys, business owners, professors, doctors, etc.

Lastly, no one can know the future value of any collectible. I do know that when I am done we will have a body of work that will be comprehensive, of high quality, intrinsically interesting, and all the while enjoying relative scarcity. The body of work will also have the advantages of being unique for its time--we march to our own drummer. Do those that invest against the group-think do best in the end? You bet. The best part, though, is that collecting Helmar is a fun pastime. God bless. Charles

[RedsFan1941]

God bless you too

[bigfanNY]

I have been impressed with the "Helmar issues" The problem I have with them is...I still walk around flea markets here on the East coast, and once in awhile I see someone selling one of these items. Always a similar story "I don't know anything about Sports items I sell Antique ( Whatever) I picked this up in an estate..large lot etc. Ty Cobb Cy Young Shoeless Joe is good though and I only want $100 $250..$300 etc..
I just politely say that this item was made in the past couple years not vintage. And I walk on.I know with smart phone folks can figure this stuff out pretty quick but not everybody has one.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by sirraffles

As for the name "Helmar", it is perfect for my purposes. There are those that would complain no matter which name had been chosen, even if this seems beyond silly
God bless. Charles

Sure you picked it out.of the air

Politely I'd say

Go bless yourself, Isee what you've tried to do. Its thinly veiled

[sirraffles]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Sure you picked it out.of the air

Politely I'd say

Go bless yourself, Isee what you've tried to do. Its thinly veiled

You forgot to sign your full name. I am doubtful that you see much.

[insidethewrapper]

I'm sure some buy and try to sell off as vintage to unknowing collectors. This should be posted in Modern Forum , not pre-war.

[sirraffles]

Actually, I've never seen a Topps framed mini as I don't follow Topps. The inspiration came from 19th century microscope slides (I have a small collection). The slides are wonderful and it struck me that they could be adapted for cards. I've always had a great distaste for the hideously ugly slabbed cards that ruin the beauty of the card within. For the life of me I can't imagine why any true collector would allow such a thing in their collection. Charles.

[swarmee]

2009 Topps Allen & Ginter's - Framed Mini Autographs - [Autographed] #AGA-PH - Phil Hughes
Courtesy of COMC.com

Ok, you can see where I made the assumption from. Surprised you've never seen this type of thing. They even put real T206s in them:


1909-11 T206 - [Base] - Sweet Caporal 350 Factory No. 30 Back 2002 Topps 206 Framed Buyback #BIBE - Bill Bergen
Courtesy of COMC.com