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Old 08-02-2018, 05:39 PM
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It's unfortunate that this is the attitude of many people in the world today.
+1, IMO its one thing to give away $2 for a mistake, such as the case with incorrectly pricing milk, it is an entirely different thing to give away $1k. That amount could seriously effect many small businesses and I wouldn't blame any small business, like an ebay seller, from refusing to honor a mistake like that.
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Old 08-02-2018, 06:15 PM
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Default Another probstein pricing error

there have been other pricing errors lately with probstein. New hire?

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Old 08-02-2018, 06:18 PM
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There is a giant difference in canceling a BIN pricing error and canceling an auction that did not get the results you were hoping for. I don't think we should apply the same logic in sellers honor.

I think any seller would be well within their right to cancel a sale like this and it would be petty to give revenge feedback for an honest error. I would have certainly bought it but not been surprised at a refund. That price is crazy.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:46 PM
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There is a giant difference in canceling a BIN pricing error and canceling an auction that did not get the results you were hoping for. I don't think we should apply the same logic in sellers honor.

I think any seller would be well within their right to cancel a sale like this and it would be petty to give revenge feedback for an honest error. I would have certainly bought it but not been surprised at a refund. That price is crazy.
You’re making too much sense.
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:22 AM
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There is a giant difference in canceling a BIN pricing error and canceling an auction that did not get the results you were hoping for. I don't think we should apply the same logic in sellers honor.

I think any seller would be well within their right to cancel a sale like this and it would be petty to give revenge feedback for an honest error. I would have certainly bought it but not been surprised at a refund. That price is crazy.

I agree.
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Old 08-02-2018, 06:25 PM
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+1, IMO its one thing to give away $2 for a mistake, such as the case with incorrectly pricing milk, it is an entirely different thing to give away $1k. That amount could seriously effect many small businesses and I wouldn't blame any small business, like an ebay seller, from refusing to honor a mistake like that.
-1 IMO https://www.delawareonline.com/story...ss/20582211/if you call a 15 million dollar business small then good for you. This is a old article so I’m sure it’s doing better then that.

So if people came into the store all day buying milk at that discounted price that’s not a problem? 1000 people came in to the store and wanted it at that price or a rain check for it?

I’m not saying they should feel good about the mistake they made. There is no law holding them to it. This is when integrity comes in to play. If you don’t value your customer then why should they or anybody else do business with you? If you can’t trust that you bought and paid something and will receive it then why buy anything from them?

If you want to avoid this way of thinking then you have to man up and honor you mistake.

The question is not can he not honor the transaction. Of course he doesn’t HAVE to. But what should he do as a multimillion dollar business owner that made a mistake in a hobby that’s foundation is trust and integrity.
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If you don’t value your customer then why should they or anybody else do business with you?
Who's the customer here - the buyer or the consignee? If the transaction goes through, one guys screwed out of $1k (doesn't get something he deserves) and another gets an item at a fraction of market value (gets something he doesn't deserve). What's right about this?
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Old 08-02-2018, 08:48 PM
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Who's the customer here - the buyer or the consignee? If the transaction goes through, one guys screwed out of $1k (doesn't get something he deserves) and another gets an item at a fraction of market value (gets something he doesn't deserve). What's right about this?
Your right but the consigner didn’t do anything wrong. This was a error of the seller. Cosigner didn’t say sell this card for whatever you can get for it. He said there should have been a 1 infront of thy price. The only person who should be screwed is the seller. Maybe this is the problem in the world. You body should pay for your mistakes but you.
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:20 PM
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So, to the people who are stating that you should always honor the listed price, even if it's clearly an error...say you are going to list your house for sale for $250,000 and you accidentally type a period instead of a comma in that number which causes your ad to list it instead for $250.00, you're saying that you are going to have the honor and integrity to just eat that mistake and go ahead and sell it for 250 bucks?
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Old 08-04-2018, 04:20 PM
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So, to the people who are stating that you should always honor the listed price, even if it's clearly an error...say you are going to list your house for sale for $250,000 and you accidentally type a period instead of a comma in that number which causes your ad to list it instead for $250.00, you're saying that you are going to have the honor and integrity to just eat that mistake and go ahead and sell it for 250 bucks?
sales of stuff like houses and cars are different than retail sales. A retailer, at least in Mass is required to honor the marked price.

sales of cars and Houses require P+s agreements contracts etc. And there are outs for a lot of circumstances like that. With a house it would be "you listed it at $250, I offer that." Followed by "sorry I don't accept that offer" (This even happens at listing prices more like the 250K..)
Cars are close, but it gets odd.
The place I worked there were two sales people who could authorize their own deals on behalf of the dealership. One weekend, one of them authorized a deal at like 2000 under cost because he wasn't all that good at math. The sales manager caught it Monday, everyone got a stern taking to, and the customer got a great deal on his purchase. And while he wasn't fired, he wasn't allowed to approve his own deals anymore. And the rest of us called him "give it away Dave" for a month or so.
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:08 AM
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Who's the customer here - the buyer or the consignee? If the transaction goes through, one guys screwed out of $1k (doesn't get something he deserves) and another gets an item at a fraction of market value (gets something he doesn't deserve). What's right about this?
Both the consignor and the buyer are the customer in this case. If auctioneer made an error on the listing they should step up and add the "1" to the consignee's check and ship the card. Both customers are made whole.

This idea that the consignee should lose out on an error is ludicrous. This idea that auctioneer gets to walk is also ludicrous. The buyer should actually makes out but that's his/her lucky day...

By the way in most states a misquoted price on a shelf or in a sale flyer is held accountable in most retail environments until retracted by the retailer once discovered...
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By the way in most states a misquoted price on a shelf or in a sale flyer is held accountable in most retail environments until retracted by the retailer once discovered...
I don't believe this is true. What states is that the case? It definitely isn't the case in Illinois.

Let me ask you and others on here, if this was on BST, would you ask the seller if it was a mistake or would you try to by the card? Maybe it is just me, but I couldn't buy an item for 20%.
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Old 08-03-2018, 07:38 AM
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I don't believe this is true. What states is that the case? It definitely isn't the case in Illinois.

Let me ask you and others on here, if this was on BST, would you ask the seller if it was a mistake or would you try to by the card? Maybe it is just me, but I couldn't buy an item for 20%.
In NY, NJ and CT.. There are tough consumer protection laws on retail... I remember Home Depot, Lowes, Dick's Sporting Goods and Stop N Shop getting pinched on pricing errors... And they made good via honoring the errors and or giving rainchecks if they ran out of the item(s)

As for the BST I would PM the seller if that was correct price... Can't say though that I have ever seen that on the BST though!
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In NY, NJ and CT.. There are tough consumer protection laws on retail... I remember Home Depot, Lowes, Dick's Sporting Goods and Stop N Shop getting pinched on pricing errors... And they made good via honoring the errors and or giving rainchecks if they ran out of the item(s)

As for the BST I would PM the seller if that was correct price... Can't say though that I have ever seen that on the BST though!
We should run an experiment and try it....see how many PMs the seller gets on his obviously mis-priced card.
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Old 08-03-2018, 08:06 AM
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In NY, NJ and CT.. There are tough consumer protection laws on retail... I remember Home Depot, Lowes, Dick's Sporting Goods and Stop N Shop getting pinched on pricing errors... And they made good via honoring the errors and or giving rainchecks if they ran out of the item(s)

As for the BST I would PM the seller if that was correct price... Can't say though that I have ever seen that on the BST though!
I live in CT and the retail laws are very tough. I know that if something rings in at a higher price at Stop N Shop they give it to you for free (maybe up to 5 of the same item).

In terms of the pricing error I agree that integrity goes both ways. If its obvious (like in this case) that there was a pricing error, maybe the auction can be cancelled and the seller (not the consigner) can give the buyer a $100 credit towards another auction. This way the buyer gets something, the consigner gets what he paid for (reselling the card for $1250), and the seller really only misses out on the commission on that particular card.
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As for the BST I would PM the seller if that was correct price... Can't say though that I have ever seen that on the BST though!
About three or four years ago, there was a Titus T206 priced significantly under its value. It wasn't a $1,250 card, but IIRC the card was a couple hundred off what T206 Titus' were selling for at the time.

There was a huge thread on here about the ethics of buying the card. Many of the posters on here took the stance of "too bad for the seller."
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Here in Mass at least, it's not just good business to honor a marked price, it's the law.

It's at least partly to stop bait and switch schemes. Home depot had a stack of shelves in boxes with a pretty nice one on top that had the price sign hung on it by a string tied through the uprights.
When I was putting my two boxes in the car, I noticed that what was actually in them was the cheap shelves that I wouldn't buy at any price. Complained, eventually got a manager after asking if they knew what bait and switch was and that it was illegal. Showed him the shelf holding up the sign and what was actually in the boxes. He balked until I told him he was lucky I just wanted the two I'd bought at that price and not as many as I could load into the van. I got my two shelves, and he had the sign removed immediately.
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