T206 Cobb (Bat-Off) 7.5 Sale on eBay

[Rhotchkiss]

Thanks guys. So this card was graded under previous ownership and new ownership, who has been in place for 14+ years, won’t stand behind the grades and work of its predecessor?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Thanks guys. So this card was graded under previous ownership and new ownership, who has been in place for 14+ years, won’t stand behind the grades and work of its predecessor?

For good reason, in my opinion... just saying.

[Rhotchkiss]

Good to know, thanks. But certainly troubling - they are basically saying anything done before new ownership is unreliable, which begs the question, why buy the company and it’s fundamentally unreliable product?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Good to know, thanks. But certainly troubling - they are basically saying anything done before new ownership is unreliable, which begs the question, why buy the company and it’s fundamentally unreliable product?

Tiny operation -- change who's in charge of grading and you have a brand new company.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

For good reason, in my opinion... just saying.

Then why buy the company, and consequently the name? If the historical standards are sub par, why buy the company? Usually you are buying the previously established name, familiarity, and credibility, along with an established sales record and an existing customer base.

When you buy a brand name, you are buying the good with the bad. Otherwise, just start up your own company.

"I'm buying a company, but their reputation isn't that great so I am not going to honor their old warranties."

[steve B]

It's way easier to buy something that's already up and running.
Look at the handful of new grading companies in the last few years and the reaction to them here. That says all you need to know about how hard getting started is.
I'd rather buy GAI than start from scratch - unless I was going to do something genuinely novel. And even then maybe

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

Then why buy the company, and consequently the name? If the historical standards are sub par, why buy the company? Usually you are buying the previously established name, familiarity, and credibility, along with an established sales record and an existing customer base.

When you buy a brand name, you are buying the good with the bad. Otherwise, just start up your own company.

"I'm buying a company, but their reputation isn't that great so I am not going to honor their old warranties."

The collecting public at large was not necessarily aware of the issues, as I recall SGC had a good reputation. And much easier to buy an existing industry player with a facility equipment and materials in place than start from scratch. Anyhow, just speculating, can't speak for Dave.

[sportscardpete]

regardless of the flip, it's still a really nice card! Sometimes the nuances of grades get in the way of a great card.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

Then why buy the company, and consequently the name? If the historical standards are sub par, why buy the company? Usually you are buying the previously established name, familiarity, and credibility, along with an established sales record and an existing customer base.

When you buy a brand name, you are buying the good with the bad. Otherwise, just start up your own company.

"I'm buying a company, but their reputation isn't that great so I am not going to honor their old warranties."

I wasn't collecting at that time, but did they offer a certain time period when collectors would be allowed to submit these cards for a reholder? Maybe they had a cutoff date after which the old labels wouldn't be honored.

[Touch'EmAll]

Years ago there were many SGC vs. PSA threads and responses. As I recall, a lot of folks here preferred SGC for various reasons. Were we all that much out to lunch plugging SGC? Was the cumulative expertise of this board's members sub-par? Has PSA done so much a better job throughout the years? I suspect the answers are no, no and no. We could talk about that T206 Wagner - gee, its in a PSA slab.

[gratefuldog3]

I spoke with SGC today regarding the aforementioned concerns. I was told that they treat all cards that are submitted for regrading, or re-encapsulation the same, whether or not the card is 1 year old, or 20 years old. If during the process the card gets a downgrade, I was told that they reimburse the difference. Oh boy!! I know that sucks and is totally a bunch of garbage considering the rarity of some of these cards. How might that figure be agreed upon on my Old Mill Jackson that is now considered trimmed ? Just a hypothetical point. Seems they're trying to do the right thing. Why would they downgrade a card knowing they're advertising paying the difference? The easy thing to do is to just give it a re-slab, and out the door it goes. I'm frustrated by this entire topic, but I'm still choosing SGC over PSA..

Scott