"Young Guns" McDavid rookie

[irv]

Originally Posted by Throttlesteer

Resurrecting the thread because I found it intriguing. To put things in perspective, there are already significantly more graded Gem Mint McDavid YGs than 1990 OPC Premier Jagr rookies (BGS+PSA). McDavid is an extraordinary talent, but he may never get close to Jagr's accomplishments. $80 vs. $400. Seems like an easy decision for me.

I don't know with a 100% certainty, but I'd bet the Jagr rookie numbers are in the thousands.
I pulled this one straight from a pack and put it in its current holder back when the collecting/junk wax craze was rampant and I know many others did as well.

Not saying there isn't a ton of McDavid rc's available, but, imo, there likely is Jagr's as well, if not more?
Currently PWCC has 5 Jagr 10's up for auction (that I seen) and depending on the prices realized, there will be a whole lot more coming out soon, imo.

But, like you, I also don't get the current prices of current players when so many proven, HOF's cards exist that can be had for less money, but I guess it boils down to who's popular and who isn't?

[Peter_Spaeth]

At one point PWCC had close to 10 McDavid's I think, haven't checked since but I suspect there is a constant large supply.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

At one point PWCC had close to 10 McDavid's I think, haven't checked since but I suspect there is a constant large supply.

There are currently 8 Young Guns with a 3 other cards also classified as Young guns, (like this one below) that I am not familiar with.

This is the most expensive one as it's a Pristine copy.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/352405806682?nordt=true

Looks like it will finish over a $1000, imo.

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/curr...ms_per_page=50

[LOTSOS]

Originally Posted by irv

There are currently 8 Young Guns with a 3 other cards also classified as Young guns, (like this one below) that I am not familiar with.

This is the most expensive one as it's a Pristine copy.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/352405806682?nordt=true

Looks like it will finish over a $1000, imo.

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/curr...ms_per_page=50

Those are UD Young Gun Canvas. Not an exact variant of the YGs such as foil, exclusive and high gloss. They generally command less than a comparable YGs. As an example a standard McDavid Young guns in BGS pristine has sold from (edit not $20k) $10k to about $5k in the past year. Not sure of the exact bottom number or recent sales because I haven't checked recently. But it has dropped substantially.

Also the pops on a Black Label BGS 10 have increased substantially in the past 6-12 months. Someone on another forum has been tracking pop counts and there was a sudden surge. I'll try and find a link tomorrow. Just another reason why I shy away from buying "11"s.

Kevin

[LOTSOS]

Here is the link:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...ht=McDavid+BGS

Black Label YGs went from a hit rate of 1/285 (first 6,800 cards graded) to 1/61 (last 304 cards graded as of May 2018)

Hmmmmm?

Kevin

[irv]

Originally Posted by LOTSOS

Those are UD Young Gun Canvas. Not an exact variant of the YGs such as foil, exclusive and high gloss. They generally command less than a comparable YGs. As an example a standard McDavid Young guns in BGS pristine has sold from (edit not $20k) $10k to about $5k in the past year. Not sure of the exact bottom number or recent sales because I haven't checked recently. But it has dropped substantially.

Also the pops on a Black Label BGS 10 have increased substantially in the past 6-12 months. Someone on another forum has been tracking pop counts and there was a sudden surge. I'll try and find a link tomorrow. Just another reason why I shy away from buying "11"s.

Kevin

Originally Posted by LOTSOS

Here is the link:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...ht=McDavid+BGS

Black Label YGs went from a hit rate of 1/285 (first 6,800 cards graded) to 1/61 (last 304 cards graded as of May 2018)

Hmmmmm?

Kevin

Very interesting, Kevin.

Thanks for the info.

[smallpaul2002]

McDavids cards are overpriced, His cards are easy to find and are in abundance..They are not as "rare" as collectors think..There are currently 1446 PSA 10's. Keep in mind, most of his cards pulled from packs, are placed in penny sleeves and inserted into a toploader immediately, and either graded or kept in a "mint state".
Gretzky's 79 OPC carries just 2-10's, 79-9's, 685-8's, 956-7's, 913-6's, 653- 5's, 541-4's, 300-3's. 161-2's, and 118-1's. He has a total of just 2635 cards graded 6 and above, and just 4,408 cards in TOTAL graded. (I don't consider the Gretzky rookie card rare either) Back in 1979 kids were not putting their cards in penny sleeves and toploaders..they put them in the spokes of their bikes to make them go faster..