Tuesday nite TRIVIA ?

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ted people are just having fun at your expense because the question was so open-ended.

"question was so open-ended"..... ! ? ! ?

What the "freak" is so open-ended about this simply stated question ?

Originally Posted by tedzan

What does Joe DiMaggio and Ted Williams have in common ?

This should be an easy one
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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by tedzan

"question was so open-ended"..... ! ? ! ?

What the "freak" is so open-ended about this simply stated question ?





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Because there could be a dozen different right answers or more and someone had to guess which one you had in mind. So naturally it inspired some humor. Don't take it as an offense, it isn't meant that way at all.

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Peter

No offense taken.
However, circa 8 years ago I posted this same quiz on this forum. Note the mood difference in the responses back then from these in this quiz.... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ay+nite+trivia



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[Peter_Spaeth]

Ted I hear ya. Maybe it was the slight wording difference, who knows. I'm still not sure what record Ted set in 1941. I assume the poster was referring to the .406 but of course that's not the single season mark or anywhere close, just the last one over .400.

DiMaggio's streak of course is untouchable especially with the way guys strike out today. .400 probably the same.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ted I hear ya. Maybe it was the slight wording difference, who knows. I'm still not sure what record Ted set in 1941. I assume the poster was referring to the .406 but of course that's not the single season mark or anywhere close, just the last one over .400.

DiMaggio's streak of course is untouchable especially with the way guys strike out today. .400 probably the same.

The key to hitting .400+ is WALKS. Ted Williams lead the AL with 147 Walks in the 1941 season when he hit .406 and in 1957 when he flirted with .400, he had 119 Walks.
These batters nowadays don't have the patience to wait out the pitcher. Therefore, I think Ted's .406 may never be surpassed. As I do not think DiMaggio's 56-game streak
will ever be equaled.



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[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by tedzan

The key to hitting .400+ is WALKS. Ted Williams lead the AL with 147 Walks in the 1941 season when he hit .406 and in 1957 when he flirted with .400, he had 119 Walks.
These batters nowadays don't have the patience to wait out the pitcher. Therefore, I think Ted's .406 may never be surpassed. As I do not think DiMaggio's 56-game streak
will ever be equaled.



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Gotta disagree with this assessment Ted. In 1941 Major leaguers walked in 9.2% of their plate appearances. In 2016 the rate was 9.1 % there's some variance of course but no noticeable trend in walks/plate appearance in either direction.

I would argue lack of contact is a much bigger issue. 1941 Major Leaguers K's in 9.1% of their PA's in 2016 it was 21.1%. Advanced stats seem to indicate this is a more successful way to play the game, but I have to wonder. Contact obviously leads to more opportunities for success then no contact. Supposedly the power increase makes up for the contact decrease.

Also FWIW Lajoie had only 24 walks in his .400 season Sisler only walked 46 and 49 times respectively in his .400 seasons Joe Jackson was 56 times, Bill Terry was 57, Harry Heilmann was 73, Hornsby was in the 80's which is healthy, Cobb was right around 100. I don't think this shows that walks are essential to hitting .400.

If we look at their K numbers they definitely support my hypothesis.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Gotta disagree with this assessment Ted. .


Also FWIW Lajoie had only 24 walks in his .400 season Sisler only walked 46 and 49 times respectively in his .400 seasons Joe Jackson was 56 times, Bill Terry was 57, Harry Heilmann was 73, Hornsby was in the 80's which is healthy, Cobb was right around 100. I don't think this shows that walks are essential to hitting .400.

Hi Scott
These guys played in an era when you could get 250 Hits; therefore, they didn't need Walks to help boost their BA. However, in the post WWII era getting 250 hits just ain't happening
any more. But, being patient and having a good eye can get you Walks, which of course reduces your official AB number.....which in turn (for a given number of Hits) raises your BA.

You don't have to take my word for it. Here's what George Brett said to a Sportscaster when asked in 1980 (he batted .390) why he fell short of achieving .400: " I didn't get enough
Walks. I needed about dozen more Walks to achieve .400 "


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