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Old 07-25-2018, 02:08 PM
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Rob's version of this 1962 Giants team photo pennant has the WC. Mine does not. I actually have two of these pennants, and neither has the WC. It is hard to imagine that this pennant had a long shelf life. Long enough to have a variation or a knock off. Maybe WC was a specific vendor?
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Old 07-25-2018, 04:31 PM
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This Cal pennant sure looks to me to be a Trench-made pennant. It's hard to put in words, but if you look at enough of their stadium pennants, they start to look the same.

One sign, for instance, is the way the artist writes the name of the stadium beside the drawing. In the 1950s, he/she used a combination of upper and lower case letters. Also, they were hand written, which means if you look at enough of these, you start to recognize the handwriting.

Below you'll see a side-by-side comparison of what I'm talking about. Note that the word "Stadium" sure looks similar, but for the "S". That difference notwithstanding, I still think the same artist drew these two renderings, and Trench made both pennants.

Which is consistent with our previous beliefs, namely that Rob's '62 photo pennant and '62 batter on baseball near bridge pennants--both of which bore this "WC" mark--were made by Trench.

It's noteworthy that the University California is located in Berkeley, just across the bay from San Francisco. This fact, and the observation that only some of these pennants bore the "WC" mark while others didn't, suggests that "WC" signifies either the name of the concessionaire that ran both Candlestick and Memorial Stadium, or else a bay area retailer that did a lot of business with Trench, like a novelty or sporting goods store that would sell both Giants and Bears pennants.

I think we may be close to solving this mystery....
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It's noteworthy that the University California is located in Berkeley, just across the bay from San Francisco. This fact, and the observation that only some of these pennants bore the "WC" mark while others didn't, suggests that "WC" signifies either the name of the concessionaire that ran both Candlestick and Memorial Stadium, or else a bay area retailer that did a lot of business with Trench, like a novelty or sporting goods store that would sell both Giants and Bears pennants.
My Cal pennant lacks this mark, in fact my collection is devoid of any marks I believe, so many variations
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That's awesome Jimm. I've been looking for that one. Love the guy swinging the redwood.
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Have we discussed this before? Marc’s photo pennant used to be mine.
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Old 07-26-2018, 12:31 PM
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Have we discussed this before? Marc’s photo pennant used to be mine.
Rob- That pennant has a "unique" smell among my pennants. Was it always that way? Did you happen to pee on it before you sold it?

I'm attaching a pic of my other copy. The rare brown front with black back version. I bought this one when I figured that I'd have to wait forever to get a better one (and then, of course, the better looking one showed up soon thereafter... the brown one does smell better though).
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Rob- That pennant has a "unique" smell among my pennants. Was it always that way? Did you happen to pee on it before you sold it?

I'm attaching a pic of my other copy. The rare brown front with black back version. I bought this one when I figured that I'd have to wait forever to get a better one (and then, of course, the better looking one showed up soon thereafter... the brown one does smell better though).
To the first question: not that I remember. I know it used to be mine, due the the ring left by a rusty pin.

I assume you’re being facetious about the “rare brown front with black back.”
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Old 07-26-2018, 06:42 PM
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Yeah, the front on that one is faded by the sun, so it is now brown instead of black. Very noticeable in person. The back is still very black.

I think I noticed that yours has different colored tassels (orange). Maybe those with orange tassels have the WC, whereas black tassels have no WC?
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