1888 DARTMOUTH solved

[Robinsol1887]

Originally Posted by ramram

I’m a little confused by some of the information that is presented but as far as the team image with what may be a “D” on the uniform, it definitely appears to be an 1880’s team considering the uniforms and the type of albumen image. Likely a team from California considering the address stamp that’s on it.

Rob M

P.S. Likely a college team or town team considering there are only ten players and a coach. However, it is a well funded team considering the quality of their uniforms.

Edited to add that I appear to like the word “considering”.

Thank you for your response! I appreciate that you payed attention to the detail in my documents. There’s a receipt for framing in my dads old things. I think he had it framed there. Any insight helps!

[rhettyeakley]

No Detroit Tigers connection, sorry. The photo comparisons are all wrong. I may be misunderstanding what you are asking but no way are Cobb or any other Tigers in that photo.

[Leon]

To me, who isn't a photo expert but looks at a ton of them, almost all of these men aren't even remotely close to who they are supposed to be resembling. My main test is simply by looking at the 2 people in question. The quicker my brain says, nope, the more likely it isn't whom it is thought it could be. On these none of them really needed a second glance....

btw, the Ty Cobb possibility is a bit comical. I mean it could be Ty's second cousin but its not close to being Ty. Almost no resemblance whatsoever to me. Maybe I am being to critical of the pics but just pointing out what I see in them.

[Runscott]

Leon, that's a good method. When someone posts a photo and mentions a big name player, the first thing I do is look for someone in the photo who resembles that person - before looking at who the owner thinks is the person. In the case of the last pic he posted I didn't even pick the correct Jackson candidate.

Lots of nice photos.

Originally Posted by Leon

To me, who isn't a photo expert but looks at a ton of them, almost all of these men aren't even remotely close to who they are supposed to be resembling. My main test is simply by looking at the 2 people in question. The quicker my brain says, nope, the more likely it isn't whom it is thought it could be. On these none of them really needed a second glance....

btw, the Ty Cobb possibility is a bit comical. I mean it could be Ty's second cousin but its not close to being Ty. Almost no resemblance whatsoever to me. Maybe I am being to critical of the pics but just pointing out what I see in them.

[drcy]

The individual identities are off, but they're all nice baseball photos.

[Dto7]

According to my uniform database the 1884 Wilmington Quicksteps wore light gray uniforms and caps with Purple Stockings and trimmings. So I don't think the photo is the Wilmington team.

[jcmtiger]

Ty Cobb isn't in any of the photos.

Joe

[Robinsol1887]

Can you tell from your data base any further information?

[Robinsol1887]

Originally Posted by drcy

The individual identities are off, but they're all nice baseball photos.

Hi drcy,

would you please take a look at my Google doc?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...CSxanIAlibUKmU


There’s a comparison of faces there. the only reason I am trying to figure out if this is a possibility is because of my dad’s notes. Amongst his collection he had an 1887 large Indianapolis Hoosier cabinet photograph, Plus nine hoosiers old judge tobacco cards, the 1869 Cincinnati red stockings sheet music booklet, and an 1888 St. Louis Browns Joseph P Hall original cabinet. These items found a new home with someone who loved the game just as much as my dad did. I’m just trying to figure out who these people are, where they came from, and if they have a better home. I love his pieces, but after talking with several collectors and placing a few of his items I understand the meaning that these types of memorabilia pieces have to many people. I want someone to feel what my dad felt

[Robinsol1887]

Originally Posted by Leon

To me, who isn't a photo expert but looks at a ton of them, almost all of these men aren't even remotely close to who they are supposed to be resembling. My main test is simply by looking at the 2 people in question. The quicker my brain says, nope, the more likely it isn't whom it is thought it could be. On these none of them really needed a second glance....

btw, the Ty Cobb possibility is a bit comical. I mean it could be Ty's second cousin but its not close to being Ty. Almost no resemblance whatsoever to me. Maybe I am being to critical of the pics but just pointing out what I see in them.

Help identifying the D on the uniforms

[ramram]

It's a town team or college team. Could be dozens of them in that region.

Rob M

[Robinsol1887]

Mystery solved. It is 1884 Dartmouth

[MattyC]

Damn, just saw this; as a Dartmouth '98 had I seen it earlier I could have helped solve it! Great picture.

[Robinsol1887]

So if that is 1888 Dartmouth then, isn’t that Lee Viau and Fred Woodcock?

[Robinsol1887]

Originally Posted by Dto7

According to my uniform database the 1884 Wilmington Quicksteps wore light gray uniforms and caps with Purple Stockings and trimmings. So I don't think the photo is the Wilmington team.

Originally Posted by Leon

To me, who isn't a photo expert but looks at a ton of them, almost all of these men aren't even remotely close to who they are supposed to be resembling. My main test is simply by looking at the 2 people in question. The quicker my brain says, nope, the more likely it isn't whom it is thought it could be. On these none of them really needed a second glance....

btw, the Ty Cobb possibility is a bit comical. I mean it could be Ty's second cousin but its not close to being Ty. Almost no resemblance whatsoever to me. Maybe I am being to critical of the pics but just pointing out what I see in them.

Leon,

I sent you all of my photographs including (Photo comparisons of photos and links to my research notes. You only included two pictures in the thread, could you please include the rest? Again, thank you for offering to post these photographs in a new thread. I appreciate any and all input that I can get

[Leon]

You are welcome to post whatever you want to. I posted what you sent me. I don't care to post pictures that much.....but again, you are welcome to. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Robinsol1887

Leon,

I sent you all of my photographs including (Photo comparisons of photos and links to my research notes. You only included two pictures in the thread, could you please include the rest? Again, thank you for offering to post these photographs in a new thread. I appreciate any and all input that I can get

[Robinsol1887]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

No Detroit Tigers connection, sorry. The photo comparisons are all wrong. I may be misunderstanding what you are asking but no way are Cobb or any other Tigers in that photo.

I was thinking Dan Casey. Thoughts?

[Dto7]

The 1885 Detroit Wolverines Home uniform were white and the road uniform were gray and both had "RED" belts and stockings. I guess that means no Dan Casey.