Ed Kranepool sues Beckett/Goodwin

[Scocs]

Why would anyone want Spencer Lader as his business partner?

[timn1]

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Originally Posted by Scocs

Why would anyone want Spencer Lader as his business partner?

[oldjudge]

If Kranepool had the Mantle jersey for over 50 years, are there any pictures of him with the jersey?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Go with me on this one.

Mr Shader introduced Mr. KraNYpool to "Mister Badloss." The parties entered into a verbal agreement because "Mr. Badloss" certainly can't sign anything since his name is actually "Mr Accomplice." When Mr. KraNYpool asks Mr. Shader "What ever happened with my Mantle Jersey?" Mr Shader says he'll look into it. He then informs Mr. KraNYpool that "Mr. Badloss" stole your jersey we had better file suit. Mr KraNYpool does that even though Mr. Shader knows (and is counting on the fact) that they can't win, because he sold the jersey already and the real Mr. Badloss is very honest and convincing when he states that he's never seen said jersey, because he in fact hasn't. When the suit is lost Mr. Shader throws up his hands and tells Mr. KraNYpool, "What can you do? We tried but everyone's out to screw the little guy." Which is, of course, also the truth, in its own way.

The above is a work of fiction and none of the characters are intended to represent any real person alive or dead. Any resemblances are purely coincidental.

[packs]

But how could the jersey ever retain its value without its association with Kranepool? That's what I'm missing here.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by packs

But how could the jersey ever retain its value without its association with Kranepool? That's what I'm missing here.

People own stolen art that can't be publicly acknowledged or resold rendering it essentially worthless. People are weird.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The plot thickens.

It appears Goodwin previously auctioned items from the Ed Kranepool collection. Now if I can only get the link right.

http://www.goodwinandco.com/catalog....ool&searchby=3

I just noticed that none appeared to sell.

[nolemmings]

I've now read the Complaint, which does appear to spell out the elements of conversion, and even makes allegations typical of a case seeking punitive damages, although none are part of the prayer for relief. Strangely, the heading of Count One is "Breach of Contract--Lader Consignment Agreements", but no such agreements are described; instead and again, a claim for conversion is alleged. Headings are not themselves allegations, so I would argue the conversion claim is already asserted, which of course is unaffected by any statute of frauds contract defense (although the drafting appears sloppy and amendment may be needed).

Interestingly, the Complaint alleges that Goodwin texted Lader on January 10, 2017, acknowledging that the jersey had passed the authentication process with flying colors. If this text can be verified as coming from Goodwin, he's got some 'splainin to do.

[Peter_Spaeth]

18-21 alleges an oral consignment agreement but it is weird that it doesn't spell out any terms whatever.

[oldjudge]

A more basic question--is there any proof that the jersey ever existed?

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by scocs

why would anyone want spencer lader as his business partner?

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[Fred]

I'm thoroughly confused here.

Does Goodwin have a Mantle jersey coming up for auction or one that was sold at auction recently? If so, there has to be pictures of it and if Ed has pictures of it then that could make his case but when you think about it, why would Bill do something like that, it's bad for business.... please don't say there's a half a million reasons because I'm sure he's auctioned off well more than that in the past and will continue to do so with his good reputation.

This is soooooo confusing....