Question regarding 1968 Milton Bradley Nolan Ryan

[toppcat]

I would call a card reissued by the manufacturer after the original run a reprint, or a reissue. A counterfeit is just that, a fake card. The MB's, to me, are "almost" a reprint and to others they may or may not be considered a true one. Either way I think it impacts the value a little. The MB Baseball are also a subset, as are Football and Hot Rods, of the larger set and I assume that you lose full set collectors in that scenario.

[ALR-bishop]

Are the 62 green tints reprints ?

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by toppcat

The MB Baseball are also a subset, as are Football and Hot Rods, of the larger set and I assume that you lose full set collectors in that scenario.

The MB cards are a set unto themselves, IMO. They were not co-mingled with 1968 cards and put in baseball, or 1967 football, or 1966 hot rods packs (those only had pink backs, right?). They were only packaged with the game. If you're putting together a set of MB cards, you need all the ones that were in the game, not just the baseball ones.

The Green Tints are a variation of cards in the 1962 Topps Baseball set, because they were pack issued in baseball card packs that year.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by swarmee

The MB cards are a set unto themselves, IMO. They were not co-mingled with 1968 cards and put in baseball, or 1967 football, or 1966 hot rods packs (those only had pink backs, right?). They were only packaged with the game. If you're putting together a set of MB cards, you need all the ones that were in the game, not just the baseball ones.

The Green Tints are a variation of cards in the 1962 Topps Baseball set, because they were pack issued in baseball card packs that year.

Completely agree with John here. MBs are a separate set unto themselves and green tints are variations.

[ALR-bishop]

I could agree that the MBs are a separate set. Could also see them as variations. But, if a separate
set maybe the Cox and Brinkman should/could be eliminated as variations to the 68 set.

Agree green tints are variations. I do not think a second printing makes them or the MBs reprints

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I could agree that the MBs are a separate set. Could also see them as variations. But, if a separate
set maybe the Cox and Brinkman should/could be eliminated as variations to the 68 set.

Agree green tints are variations. I do not think a second printing makes them or the MBs reprints

I agree with John, Al and Andy.....the 68 MBS are a separate set and the 62 GTs are merely a second print run. I would consider the 68 MBs similar to the BK cards from the 70s, produced by Topps for another company. I wonder what Carltons definition of the MB set would be?

To answer the op's original question, in line with other responses, lack of demand keeps the prices for these cards down. When Carltons article came out a few years back, there was a small surge in prices due to a brief increase in demand, but as time has passed, so has the small spike in demand.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I could agree that the MBs are a separate set. Could also see them as variations. But, if a separate
set maybe the Cox and Brinkman should/could be eliminated as variations to the 68 set.

The Cox and Brinkman are a great example of supply and demand. Even those who know they were not issued as part of the Topps set still collect those as variations of the Topps set. They were issued in the same quantity as any of the other MB cards, yet they hold a relatively much higher value than the other Topps counterparts (including the Ryan). However as anyone who is putting a true MB set together, the toughest cards by far to find (years later) are the Hot Rod cards.

[ALR-bishop]

Taylor— the reason people collect them as part of the 68 set, even if they know them to be MB cards, is that PSA, Beckett and SCD include them as part of a master set. That’s why I have them in both of my sets. Most 1968 set collectors want them, as well as any MB collectors, hence the demand you point out that drives up the price more than that for other MB cards

We need Carlton to pop in here

[toppcat]

Cox and Brinkman are more popular because they have been in the guides as a legit 68 Topps variation since the beginning, or close enough to it that they are considered part and parcel of the 68 Topps set.

Hot Rods are intriguing since they also show up in the salmon backed "Fun Pack" reissues that also include 67 Who Am I? (no coating) and Target: Moon. What was the purpose of that "set" originally, since Fun Packs were for overstocked and returned cards?