Say Hey! PSA/DNA

[thetruthisoutthere]

Or maybe some of us, me included, don't want to opine as much as we used to.

I know from personal communication with three of my collector friends, they no longer want to opine.....myself included.

[thetruthisoutthere]

One more comment...

I've observed dozens of "Steiner" holograms on Jeter forged baseballs.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Or maybe some of us, me included, don't want to opine as much as we used to.

I know from personal communication with three of my collector friends, they no longer want to opine.....myself included.

They might not want to opine because they don't know or think they know and don't . Autographs are a minefield. Good luck to anyone collecting them on anything but official docs or without ironclad provenance. That all said, if you don't help your hobby it won't get better.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Leon

They might not want to opine because they don't know or think they know and don't . Autographs are a minefield. Good luck to anyone collecting them on anything but official docs or without ironclad provenance. That all said, if you don't help your hobby it won't get better.

Leon, I can appreciate your comment, but it's not about that at all in discussing it with my collector friends.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Leon, I can appreciate your comment, but it's not about that at all in discussing it with my collector friends.

Yes, I understand we are too open of a forum to share some things. I am positive there are some fraudsters who read the board.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Leon

Yes, I understand we are too open of a forum to share some things. I am positive there are some fraudsters who read the board.

Has zero to do with that.

[Rookiemonster]

So some truth appears thanks Molder. If we can’t talk about here or get to the bottom of it together. Then I don’t think anyone will have a clear idea of what’s going on.( The alterd Steiner autos is news to me). I’m not a big auto collector but I do enjoy adding some graphs. That being said what Leon said echos true if we won’t help each other then no one else will.

[earlywynnfan]

Based on what's been discussed before, here is how I approach Mays' autos with the Say Hey hologram: they have been tainted enough for me that I will not touch them. The final straw was comparing two Mays' sigs: one was an in-person that sold via Verkman auctions, the other any of the ones with the Say Hey holo. The in-person one was as shaky as you'd expect for a man of his age and (seemingly) health. The rest? Beautiful and perfect. How is that so?

No thanks, I'll say away. Just like I stay away from any not-early Global, Ace, etc. Maybe I'll actually miss a legit auto, but it's not worth my time and energy.

Ken

PS: I assume you've done searches here on the forum? If so, how much more can be said?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Or maybe some of us, me included, don't want to opine as much as we used to.

I know from personal communication with three of my collector friends, they no longer want to opine.....myself included.

That is too bad because I highly respect your opinion but I understand. I am the same way pointing out altered cards. Especially when it is obviously bad and the person who asks then wants to argue about it.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by bnorth

That is too bad because I highly respect your opinion but I understand. I am the same way pointing out altered cards. Especially when it is obviously bad and the person who asks then wants to argue about it.

Thank you, Ben.

And thank you for your empathy.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by bnorth

That is too bad because I highly respect your opinion but I understand. I am the same way pointing out altered cards. Especially when it is obviously bad and the person who asks then wants to argue about it.

ahem... 1958 "Blue" Aarons.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by JustinD

ahem... 1958 "Blue" Aarons.

LOL, yes I had one gentleman tell me I must not know who he is and how important he is in the hobby. I just replied with an OK but you are still trying to sell an altered card.

I have been thinking about selling that card with the description saying how that card saved collectors $ from scammers. I know before my post they sold for a premium. After the mass selloff right after my post I don't see them anymore.

[Marchillo]

Great I have a Mays with a Say Hey that I got a while back. It also has a MRAK sticker on it. Are they legit? I did a google search and they actually put out a forgery advisory. So hoping it’s legitimate. I got it a while back. Here is the link to the article. No inscription on mine.

http://www.mraksports.com/Forgery.htm