T213-1s and T206 Carolina Brights (Fraud/Fakes) by Daniel Desmond

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

look good to me fwiw

EDIT: Wait, the front of the coupons font looks like T206. Either there's a type I don't know about or soething's weird here. I know there are black letters as well as blue, but even those don't look remotely the same as T206 printing.

EDIT 2x: OK just found a Hunter T213 with print that looks the same as T206.Apparently the T213-1's look this way. Super rare apparently, if real. Ignore my uninformed opinions please!

[Sean]

They absolutely appear to be real IMO.

[that T206 Guy]

So why do some Have Blue Lettering and Some Have Brown Lettering?

[Steve D]

Originally Posted by that T206 Guy

So why do some Have Blue Lettering and Some Have Brown Lettering?

T213-1's have brown lettering, while T213-2 and T213-3 have blue lettering.

Steve

[that T206 Guy]

Originally Posted by Steve D

T213-1's have brown lettering, while T213-2 and T213-3 have blue lettering.

Steve

I see.

So they were Released in Batches like 1952 Topps.

Can the Same Players be Found with Both Blue and Brown Lettering?

Or Does Each Player just have one Color or the Other?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by that T206 Guy

I see.

So they were Released in Batches like 1952 Topps.

Can the Same Players be Found with Both Blue and Brown Lettering?

Or Does Each Player just have one Color or the Other?

Type- 1s were produced around 1910 and have brown ink. Types 2 + 3 were produce in 1914 and 1919 and have blue ink.

Any players that were in the first and second sets would feature both colors of ink. The Evers in the first post is one example.

[that T206 Guy]

Originally Posted by Sean

Type- 1s were produced around 1910 and have brown ink. Types 2 + 3 were produce in 1914 and 1919 and have blue ink.

Any players that were in the first and second sets would feature both colors of ink. The Evers in the first post is one example.

Great info and Thank You Sean.

I learn so much on this Site

[Luke]

I'd be pretty suspicious given the recent fake backs being made of each. I'd have a lot of questions (first question is always "Where are all the Piedmonts?"). I don't love the CB. I'd want to see it in person and take some high res scans. The telltale with the fakes is the ink never sits quite right on the paper and just looks wrong up close.

Worries aside, they do look good. If I had to say good or bad just based on those scans, I'd say good.

[tedzan]

Hi Leon

Here's my Chase (CB) and the one you show looks authentic.


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The 6 guys with 1910 COUPON are are confirmed....and, they look too beat to have been re-backed. They're good.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[Luke]

If you compare Ted's Carolina Brights Chase (great cards btw) to the one in the original post, you can see what I am worried about. The ink on the back is not deep and dark like Ted's. It's possible the Chase in the OP is legit and it is just faded or has a lot of surface wear. But its also possible that it's a fake that never had the ink applied as fully as a real one. I'd have to see it up close to make a determination.

[MVSNYC]

I think Lennox and Evers might be real...the rest are fake, you can tell by the faded look. And as Leon pointed out, they are being skinned and inkjet printed. Scary, be cautious of faded looking backs.

[ullmandds]

i also agree w/lennox and evers.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Scary, be cautious of faded looking backs.

Real scary.