Heritage auctions a joke

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

None of the fees are hidden so do a few quick calculations before you bid. Yes, Heritage can be a bit pricey and I think you do a little better bidding on higher value items with them. If you win a $75 card you will probably get hit with some higher costs.

I have no problem with Heritage charging sales tax because it is the law and they have to. And they are not keeping one penny of it, as all they collect goes to the government. My only issue is it is hard for me to be competitive when another bidder is free of the sales tax obligation. He has a nearly one increment advantage over me so it makes it more difficult to win something.

So I prefer bidding with an auction house that doesn't need to charge me the tax. But I don't begrudge those who do, and I calculate everything before I bid. If you think a company charges you too much, find another to do business with. There is no shortage of auction houses.

Barry, we go through this same discussion every few months here. If you aren’t being charged sales tax you are obliged to pay use tax which is the same exact tax but remitted by the buyer. Either way you are supposed to pay.

[A2000]

I always thought Heritage was pretty upfront with their charges. If you're not sure if you have to pay sales tax, they even have a link for you before you can click to confirm your bid.

[robertsmithnocure]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Barry, we go through this same discussion every few months here. If you aren’t being charged sales tax you are obliged to pay use tax which is the same exact tax but remitted by the buyer. Either way you are supposed to pay.

Thanks Exhibitman,

I do not know why people can't understand this. Whether the auction house collects the tax on you behalf or not, you still owe it.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure

Thanks Exhibitman,

I do not know why people can't understand this. Whether the auction house collects the tax on you behalf or not, you still owe it.

It's actually you AH defenders who don't understand...The OP's grievance was against have to pay additional tax because the AH charges an arbitrary shipping and handling charge. Not that he had to pay taxes. So many people in this thread keep missing that point then accusing the OP of not understanding. It's humorous.

[markf31]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

It's actually you AH defenders who don't understand...The OP's grievance was against have to pay additional tax because the AH charges an arbitrary shipping and handling charge. Not that he had to pay taxes. So many people in this thread keep missing that point then accusing the OP of not understanding. It's humorous.

What you dont seem to understand is the fact that Heritage details and spells out ALL of their charges on their website and in the agreement that is signed by bidders at the time of registration. Heritage details and specifies that handling/service charges WILL BE CHARGED. And by law, when the handling and shipping are combined, tax MUST be paid on that charge. Those are the facts that you and the OP either are ignorant to or simply cant comprehend.

[robertsmithnocure]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

It's actually you AH defenders who don't understand...The OP's grievance was against have to pay additional tax because the AH charges an arbitrary shipping and handling charge. Not that he had to pay taxes. So many people in this thread keep missing that point then accusing the OP of not understanding. It's humorous.

Exhibitman's post (and my follow-up) were both directed at barrysloate, not specifically the OP. It seems as though you have a difficult time with following the different posts on this thread.

[CW]

Maybe this is worth a new topic, but for those who don't like Heritage's site or find it hard to navigate, what specifically is so difficult? You say it sucks, but what sucks about it?

While it may not be perfect, I always found Heritage's site one of the easiest to use and navigate in the auction field.

First of all, you don't need to login with Paypal, Facebook, or anything like that. The Login page clearly shows you can login with Heritage credentials:






Once you login, you should either be directed right to the "sports" page or the main Heritage page. If you are on the main Heritage page, simply click "Departments" and then "Sports":






This takes you to the main sports page where you can search every single sports auction Heritage has running. If you prefer to search a specific auction, you can click the "all auction and buy it now" tab to select a certain auction to browse:






OR you can scroll down the page and see a list of current or past sports auctions. Underneath each one you can click the "view lots" button to browse or search that auction:






Once you are browsing a certain auction, you can scroll through the lots easily and see thumbnail images of each item. You can also track or bid on lots without even opening that lot page. Very convenient.


Finally, if you want to pull up your watch list or bid list, simply click on "My Heritage" in the upper right hand corner of any page:






So browsing lots, searching auctions (past and present), and seeing your bid or watch lists is all right there at your fingertips.

What exactly is so difficult with Heritage's site?

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by CW

What exactly is so difficult with Heritage's site?

I like the site and like how it shows the total bid when you are placing a bid (that includes bp). Only AH I don't like navigating is Hunt.

[mechanicalman]

Darn it, Chuck. If you explain it, it makes it so much harder to bitch about!

[Snapolit1]

[QUOTE=CW;1782549]Maybe this is worth a new topic, but for those who don't like Heritage's site or find it hard to navigate, what specifically is so difficult? You say it sucks, but what sucks about it?

When you do subject matter searches, it's very hard to tell whether what they are showing you is for sale now vs. what's for sale in two months vs. something they sold 2 years ago.

I like the guys who bought something for $70,000 last December but they will entertain an offer for $290,000. Yep, sure you would buddy.

[x2drich2000]

Heritage's shipping & handling is clearly provided on their website. Not only do they now have a calculator on each item to automatically show you the estimated shipping, they have a whole page dedicated to show how the amount is calculated. https://sports.ha.com/c/shipping.zx If you are being charged something different, I would either a not say anything if it is less, or call them and find out why it is more. Everytime I have talked to them on the phone they have been extremely helpful.

As far as their site, I think it is one of the better sites. Bids are clear, BP is shown so I don't have to think about it, it is easy to search their archives or see what is coming up, etc. One of the features I think is unique to them that I really like is the ability to bid on multiple lots at 1 time. If I'm bidding on 50 or 100 lots to get my initial bids in it, it sure beats having to go into each lot individually to place the bid.

[CW]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

When you do subject matter searches, it's very hard to tell whether what they are showing you is for sale now vs. what's for sale in two months vs. something they sold 2 years ago.

I like the guys who bought something for $70,000 last December but they will entertain an offer for $290,000. Yep, sure you would buddy.

Fair enough, thanks for clarifying.

I just went to the sports page and did a search on "Lou Gehrig". I get these results which show how much time is left in the auction. You can also select between the two tabs for "available items" or "sold items". As you scroll down, yes, eventually you will get into sold items or items that are "coming soon". I think it's just a matter of getting used to glancing over to the right to see if the item is current, sold, or coming soon.

Hunts site is pretty bad, even Huggins and Scott sucks somewhat because certain searches do not give you a thumbnail image, but Heritage's site is pretty good, in my opinion (Ch.uck W.o|f)

[petecld]

Thank you CW! Couldn't have said it better myself.

Peter

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Barry, we go through this same discussion every few months here. If you aren’t being charged sales tax you are obliged to pay use tax which is the same exact tax but remitted by the buyer. Either way you are supposed to pay.

Adam- could you please clearly explain what use tax is? If, for example, I live in NY and bid in REA, which is in NJ, is there still some tax that is supposed to be paid? Sorry if I'm a little lost.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Basically Use tax is sales tax paid by the purchaser if the sale is interstate. Nobody, or almost nobody, pays it, but we're all supposed to.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Basically Use tax is sales tax paid by the purchaser if the sale is interstate. Nobody, or almost nobody, pays it, but we're all supposed to.

In my state, as long as the purchase is for re-sale, I am not obligated to pay the use tax.

[Leon]

I think the OP (hi Larry) might just have an axe to grind with the AH. It might be because a buddy of his got axed OR he just can't read the rules? Reading comprehension is fundamental to knowing what you are doing. And it seems to be a lost art on the OP. Anyone saying that Heritage is screwing them out of sales tax money is acting like an idiot. You heard it here first.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think the OP (hi Larry) might just have an axe to grind with the AH. It might be because a buddy of his got axed OR he just can't read the rules? Reading comprehension is fundamental to knowing what you are doing. And it seems to be a lost art on the OP. Anyone saying that Heritage is screwing them out of sales tax money is acting like an idiot. You heard it here first.

Leon, seems that, lately, there is rash of net54 members who can’t read, but sure can write!

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by rhotchkiss

leon, seems that, lately, there is rash of net54 members who can’t read, but sure can write!

+1,000!

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Leon, seems that, lately, there is rash of net54 members who can’t read, but sure can write!

Yeah...And most of them are into some serious auction house worship.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Leon, seems that, lately, there is rash of net54 members who can’t read, but sure can write!

but they don't write well!

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

In my state, as long as the purchase is for re-sale, I am not obligated to pay the use tax.

of course, the same as a sales ta exemption.