Heritage auctions a joke

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by sflayank

Along with the fact they have the worst website ever designed

Hunt’s has something to say about that! I like Hunt’s but their website feels like it is from 1995.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Which costs did you not know about when you bid on the card you won for $79?

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Which costs did you not know about when you bid on the card you won for $79?

+10000

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[iwantitiwinit]

Larry I agree those costs seem excessive but they are clearly spelled out in the auction specifics. You are free to bid or not bid so I don't see there's really much of a valid gripe.

[Fballguy]

I paid them via paypal on May 21st. Haven't heard a word. Called them yesterday and they confirmed my item hasn't shipped yet. Now that's a joke.

[Bpm0014]

Along with the fact they have the worst website ever designed

I couldn't agree more. I belong to every auction house imaginable and Heritage by far is the most difficult to figure out! It is so confusing.

[Shankweather]

The shipping and minimum buyer's premium are killers for low price auctions. Moral of the story, only buy big time cards from HA.

[drmondobueno]

Even though everything is disclosed? Or did you not read up? Or did it just not sink in?

My last purchase through Heritage was a while back and the total juice- sales tax, S&H, premium, exceeded 28% of the bid price. At the end of the day I realized, even though I bid what I was comfortable with, that the whole experience with Heritage left a bad taste in my mouth and I did not see the value in the “service” provided by Heritage. Just the way I see the world.

I have not done business with Heritage since, especially after thinking through their disclosure of employee right to bid. Just because it is legal does not make it right.

[sflayank]

Everyone here knows what its about
GREED...
why charge the same bp for 50 card as a 70 card..GREED
.btw...after i saw the invoice it took 20 minutes on their website to find their rules
Ive been bidding in all auctions as u guys know for 20 years...
So i ended up paying 50% over the price of the card
Imagine winning a 50 card in NY
50 +14 +13+6...$83
66% over the price of the card
GREED GREED GREED

[Peter_Spaeth]

The site explicitly tells you how much BP is going to be added to your "bid." It does the math for you. What more can you possibly want?

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The site explicitly tells you how much BP is going to be added to your "bid." It does the math for you. What more can you possibly want?

Hey, Larry, how about answering this?? Because YOU clicked the bid button, which stated exactly how much you were paying with buyer's premium. To complain about it now makes you look like a whiner.

[sflayank]

No gripe just passing along information
We all know why heritage is in texas...so they can break the laws of the other 49 states
Btw...what law requires them to charge sales tax to out of state residents of certain states?
Congress has yet to pass an interner sales tax law
Also why do i have to sign into paypal to sign into heritage? Whats that all about?

[Rich Falvo]

I log into Heritage directly without signing into PayPal.

[DerekD]

Originally Posted by sflayank

No gripe just passing along information
We all know why heritage is in texas...so they can break the laws of the other 49 states
Btw...what law requires them to charge sales tax to out of state residents of certain states?
Congress has yet to pass an interner sales tax law

Heritage has an office in Florida now, so they now collect sales tax on all Florida wins.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by sflayank

No gripe just passing along information
We all know why heritage is in texas...so they can break the laws of the other 49 states
Btw...what law requires them to charge sales tax to out of state residents of certain states?
Congress has yet to pass an interner sales tax law
Also why do i have to sign into paypal to sign into heritage? Whats that all about?

If they have an office in a given state they are required to charge sales tax in said state. I feel like we've been over these points ad infinitum.

[bensie]

Originally Posted by sflayank

Everyone here knows what its about
GREED...
why charge the same bp for 50 card as a 70 card..GREED
.btw...after i saw the invoice it took 20 minutes on their website to find their rules
Ive been bidding in all auctions as u guys know for 20 years...
So i ended up paying 50% over the price of the card
Imagine winning a 50 card in NY
50 +14 +13+6...$83
66% over the price of the card
GREED GREED GREED

They're running a business, not a charity. I fail to understand how some of you simply can't grasp that concept. Read the T&C before bidding. If you don't like them, don't bid. There are several auction houses I won't place bids with because the terms are unfavorable to me.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by sflayank

Everyone here knows what its about
GREED...
why charge the same bp for 50 card as a 70 card..GREED
.btw...after i saw the invoice it took 20 minutes on their website to find their rules
Ive been bidding in all auctions as u guys know for 20 years...
So i ended up paying 50% over the price of the card
Imagine winning a 50 card in NY
50 +14 +13+6...$83
66% over the price of the card
GREED GREED GREED

They have decided it's not worth the time and cost of photographing, listing, and shipping a card for less than 14 bucks. I dont fault them for that. And I doubt they're making much of a profit on those cards. I do agree with your point about their website though. Trying to navigate it without linking through to the specific auction I'm looking for is frustrating to say the least.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

I paid them via paypal on May 21st. Haven't heard a word. Called them yesterday and they confirmed my item hasn't shipped yet. Now that's a joke.

In my experience they are uneven. It tends to be better if you have won lots before, or win something more substantial, but not always.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

In my experience they are uneven. It tends to be better if you have won lots before, or win something more substantial, but not always.

Yeah...It's my first time with them and not a huge purchase.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Yeah...It's my first time with them and not a huge purchase.

Patience. You may be rewarded with a huge supply of packing peanuts.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Patience. You may be rewarded with a huge supply of packing peanuts.

I can only hope...I like to recoup as much of the BP as I can in recycled shipping supplies.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

Larry I agree those costs seem excessive but they are clearly spelled out in the auction specifics. You are free to bid or not bid so I don't see there's really much of a valid gripe.

Using this logic, nobody should gripe about paying their taxes. It's all spelled out for you. Not to start this again....but just because something "is"...doesn't make it ok.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Using this logic, nobody should gripe about paying their taxes. It's all spelled out for you. Not to start this again....but just because something "is"...doesn't make it ok.

Griping about taxes is All-American; but griping at a private company for complying with the tax laws is misplaced. You need to bitch out the state government, not Heritage.

[iwantitiwinit]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Using this logic, nobody should gripe about paying their taxes. It's all spelled out for you. Not to start this again....but just because something "is"...doesn't make it ok.

You don't have the option to pay or not pay taxes, you do have the option to bid or not bid. Griping about something you have no control over is a bit different than griping about something you can avoid.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

You don't have the option to pay or not pay taxes, you do have the option to bid or not bid. Griping about something you have no control over is a bit different than griping about something you can avoid.

You can't avoid it if they have an item you want and nobody else does.

It's funny that people defend the right of AH to price gouge...but more than likely would be outraged at the Gas stations who charged $10 for a gallon of gas and $7 for a bottle of water a few years ago during Hurricane Sandy. Maybe if the gas stations only charged $8.33 per gallon with 20% buyers premium it wouldn't have made the news.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

You can't avoid it if they have an item you want and nobody else does.

It's funny that people defend the right of AH to price gouge...but more than likely would be outraged at the Gas stations who charged $10 for a gallon of gas and $7 for a bottle of water a few years ago during Hurricane Sandy. Maybe if the gas stations only charged $8.33 per gallon with 20% buyers premium it wouldn't have made the news.

Big difference between necessities and collectibles. Just because nobody else has it doesn't mean you have to buy it.

[Snapolit1]

The buyer's premium is the Auction House's premium. Charging "shipping and handling" on top of that is BS. Give me a break. Charge for postage. Your time getting it in the mail and .7 cents worth of foam peanuts and 3 cents of cardboard is what you are making your 20% for.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Big difference between necessities and collectibles. Just because nobody else has it doesn't mean you have to buy it.

Now you sound like my wife.

It comes down to what you collect and opportunity. A card collector can pass on a card because there's no shortage of cards (in most cases) and there will be plenty of opportunity to pick it up in the future. So I buy your comment here.

But, memorabilia in many cases is a once or twice in a lifetime proposition. So there's a greater "need" to pick it up when you see it because it might not come around again. You can poke holes in the definition of need in this context...but we're collectors. It's in our blood..and when we see an item that's attainable we feel the "need" to acquire it. Otherwise, you're just a window shopping.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

You can't avoid it if they have an item you want and nobody else does.

It's funny that people defend the right of AH to price gouge...but more than likely would be outraged at the Gas stations who charged $10 for a gallon of gas and $7 for a bottle of water a few years ago during Hurricane Sandy. Maybe if the gas stations only charged $8.33 per gallon with 20% buyers premium it wouldn't have made the news.

I gotta stop reading this thread.

I wouldn't buy gas at a station that charged those rates. Wild huh?

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I gotta stop reading this thread.

I wouldn't buy gas at a station that charged those rates. Wild huh?

During Hurricane Sandy your options were severely limited. So you don't have to buy in either scenario...but if you choose not to, you go without.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Using this logic, nobody should gripe about paying their taxes. It's all spelled out for you. Not to start this again....but just because something "is"...doesn't make it ok.

Taxes aren't voluntary, I don't understand how you can't see the difference.