Graded card clamshell cases

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Was it Ultra Pro?

I didn't think Ultra Pro or BCW make cases that get sealed with the sonic sealers.

[Bill77]

GMA grading sells holders.
http://gmagrading.com/grade-sports-cards-business/

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by Bill77

GMA grading sells holders.
http://gmagrading.com/grade-sports-cards-business/

Thanks but I currently don't want to buy them. I am trying to get in contact with the manufacture to have cases made similar in design but with a new type of plastic resin.

[The-Cardfather]

Let me see if I understand this correctly, because for the life of me I know that I can't possibly be right.

I'm able to buy a supply of the same clam shell/case/holder that PSA uses from GMA. Obviously, I have to invest in all the related sealing equipment, as well.
Once I have my clam shells and equipment; I can crack open any legitimately graded PSA card from it's holder (let's say a 1965 Topps Clemente graded 8) use that legitimate PSA label in my new holder and insert a 1965 Topps Clemente that experience tells me would probably grade around a 6.5 or a 7 via PSA.
Now I can sell my 6.5 or 7 grade Clemente as a PSA 8, and resubmit the actual PSA 8 card to PSA where it will probably grade as an 8 again.

Somebody please tell me that I'm wrong! Please tell me that things aren't quite so easy for those unscrupulous sellers among us!

[swarmee]

The PSA cases are branded with a clear PSA in bottom right corner of the slab. They are not the same ones GMA sells. Also, the new PSA slabs are much more like Beckett slabs than older PSA slabs. But yes, scammers gonna scam.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by swarmee

The PSA cases are branded with a clear PSA in bottom right corner of the slab. They are not the same ones GMA sells. Also, the new PSA slabs are much more like Beckett slabs than older PSA slabs. But yes, scammers gonna scam.

I might be mistaken but the old PSA slabs from back in the day are not branded. I thought they were generic clamshells.

[steve B]

What you might run up against is that most grading companies do a bit of their own design. Usually when you have parts injection molded you pay for the mold, and the molding company stores it as part of the deal. That's if you're making a lot of parts. If you're doing a smallish run, you get to store the mold, which will often only work on one sort of machine.

So while the manufacturer of the slab probably has the mold, they'd need permission from the mold owner to run any parts from it. And a short run will be pretty expensive.
Even once you find someone making a generic slab sort of holder - and I think I recall seeing some somewhere but can't find them- you'd still have to go through them.


What plastic are you thinking of? It might be possible to do it on a 3-D printer. Results vary depending on the printer and the sort of plastic, but it might be doable.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by The Cardfather

Let me see if I understand this correctly, because for the life of me I know that I can't possibly be right.

I'm able to buy a supply of the same clam shell/case/holder that PSA uses from GMA. Obviously, I have to invest in all the related sealing equipment, as well.
Once I have my clam shells and equipment; I can crack open any legitimately graded PSA card from it's holder (let's say a 1965 Topps Clemente graded 8) use that legitimate PSA label in my new holder and insert a 1965 Topps Clemente that experience tells me would probably grade around a 6.6 or a 7 via PSA.
Now I can sell my 6.5 or 7 grade Clemente as a PSA 8, and resubmit the actual PSA 8 card to PSA where it will probably grade as an 8 again.

Somebody please tell me that I'm wrong! Please tell me that things aren't quite so easy for those unscrupulous sellers among us!

Pretty much spot on unfortunately.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

I didn't think Ultra Pro or BCW make cases that get sealed with the sonic sealers.

May not be what you want but it's what they call it.

https://www.ultrapro.com/product_inf...6qip6rnm6qms93

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

May not be what you want but it's what they call it.

https://www.ultrapro.com/product_inf...6qip6rnm6qms93

Thanks Pete.