Absurd PWCC Shipping Cost........BEWARE

[irv]

Originally Posted by markf31

Running some quick cost estimates on the UPS website gave me this. Shipping from Lake Oswego, Oregon to Thunder Bay Ontario (because I like the name Thunder Bay). The package details and dimensions are for a 400 count card box shipped with a declared value of just $40.

The quoted shipping cost is $39.07. It might drop a little for a larger metropolitan area in Canada such as Toronto though. Is that a lot for a $40 item, yes of course. But I dont see how any fault lies with PWCC as it would seem they are charging what the actual shipping cost for them is, or very close to it.

Well, first off, TB is another 15 hrs north of me or 1427 kms so I am sure it would be more to ship there as opposed to where I am (just east of Toronto)

Regardless, if you go back and read this thread, you will see for yourself it's not just us Canucks who are complaining about PWCC's shipping, it's Americans as well.
For what it's worth, I just received a pkg worth $400 American the other day.
The cards were in top loaders sandwiched between taped cardboard wrapped in plastic placed inside a small box which was placed in a styrofoam peanut filled larger box placed inside a padded large Purolator envelope which was insured and had tracking all for $22 dollars.

Originally Posted by jb217676

I keep it quite simple. I don't bid on PWCC or Probstein auctions because of what they charge Canadians. I can find plenty to bid on with shipping charges anywhere from $2-$10. I just hate paying a minimum of $20-$32 in shipping from PWCC or Probstein.
Jeff

I hear you, Jeff. Probstein never shipped to Canada not that long ago but I assume they realized they were losing money so they decided to change that.

I have never purchased from Probstein and it's been a year or longer since I last did with PWCC. I don't see anything changing in that regard with them anytime soon.

[bobbyw8469]

Regardless, if you go back and read this thread, you will see for yourself it's not just us Canucks who are complaining about PWCC's shipping, it's Americans as well.
For what it's worth, I just received a pkg worth $400 American the other day.
The cards were in top loaders sandwiched between taped cardboard wrapped in plastic placed inside a small box which was placed in a styrofoam peanut filled larger box placed inside a padded large Purolator envelope which was insured and had tracking all for $22 dollars.

Seems awful cheap. Canadians need to realize. It is NOT AMERICANS FAULT that it cost an arm an a leg to ship to Canada. Canada is considered international.

[irv]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Seems awful cheap. Canadians need to realize. It is NOT AMERICANS FAULT that it cost an arm an a leg to ship to Canada. Canada is considered international.

My mistake, it likely wasn't insured?

"New message from: worldchamps00 Top Rated Seller(342Turquoise Star)
Sorry , no shipping to Canada unless you want to pay for Priority shipping $22. This is the only way to get tracking."

But then I received this from them, which they did. Needless to say, I will be purchasing from them again.

New message from: worldchamps00 Top Rated Seller(342Turquoise Star)
Hey, If not to late, I'll ship to Canada if you want to bid. THis lot has exceeded my expectation, so I'll pay the extra shipping if you win. Thanks for the info and good luck if you bid

[A2000]

As far as I know, there are no cheap methods to shipping from US to Canada with tracking. And if you're shipping to Canada without tracking, you're taking a big risk because sooner or later, someone will say they never got their package and you'll be screwed.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Seems awful cheap. Canadians need to realize. It is NOT AMERICANS FAULT that it cost an arm an a leg to ship to Canada. Canada is considered international.

It is also not an American seller's fault if they actually want to comply with the law and claim the appropriate item value on the customs form either.

[irv]

Originally Posted by A2000

As far as I know, there are no cheap methods to shipping from US to Canada with tracking. And if you're shipping to Canada without tracking, you're taking a big risk because sooner or later, someone will say they never got their package and you'll be screwed.

Originally Posted by tschock

It is also not an American seller's fault if they actually want to comply with the law and claim the appropriate item value on the customs form either.

I get all that, but it still doesn't take away that what they charge is excessive.

Read post #15 like I mentioned earlier. They have trimmed/suspect cards being charged more for shipping than the same cards that got a grade.

Like I have also mentioned/noticed, it seems the shipping stateside is not equal as well?
Some look to pay relatively good fees while others, especially those who are complaining in the thread, pay a lot more? Why is that?

[tschock]

Originally Posted by irv

I get all that, but it still doesn't take away that what they charge is excessive.

Read post #15 like I mentioned earlier. They have trimmed/suspect cards being charged more for shipping than the same cards that got a grade.

Like I have also mentioned/noticed, it seems the shipping stateside is not equal as well?
Some look to pay relatively good fees while others, especially those who are complaining in the thread, pay a lot more? Why is that?

Irv,

I get what you are saying as well. And what they charge may be excessive or inconsistent (within the same weight/value range). However as a buyer, I tend to calculate what it costs me out of pocket in total. So I buy based on that. If I think something is excessive (ie shipping), then I might ask before (or even after) I buy the item if that can be adjusted. The inconsistency is definitely a head-scratcher (to be nice), but it is within your control (whether or not to buy).

What isn't (directly) within your control is how much it should cost to safely and effectively ship internationally within the laws/guidelines of the receiving country. I highly suspect that some of the cheap shipping some sellers provide may be 'shorting' something (risk, import value, insurance, etcl), or building it into the price of the item itself.