The Beast....Brock Lesnar...My favorite athlete!

[Dpeck100]

It was crazy when Brock came into the UFC! I was so excited for his first fight and was rocked when he lost. So glad he came back and beat Mir's face in!

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Only 75 of these. Very tough card to locate.

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Lowest print Brock football card that exists and numbered to 25. Only copy I have seen since I began searching in August of 2009 and threw in an offer fast.

[Cozumeleno]

Great cards. I'd love to pick up a PSA 10 from the 2002 set (as well as Orton and Cena). I've seen the football cards of Lesnar, Goldberg, and The Rock. It's weird because I collect football but don't really have much interest in the football cards of the wrestlers. That 2002 set seems like one of the bigger modern day sets in terms of star power with key rookie cards.

There was a PSA 9 of Lesnar's 2002 WWE card that I'd been watching on eBay that just got bought up at $50. I was kind of surprised to see that. An Orton, for example, has been sitting at $25 for a while. Shows a good market for high-grade modern cards, which is nice to see. I've bought a bunch of PSA 10s from the 1980s through present in the last few weeks since jumping into this wrestling card thing.

Ungraded, the 2002 set cards seem to be pretty cheap. I've toyed with the idea of hoping to get lucky with a submission and find a 10 but in between the waiting period and the unlikely nature of that, I'd rather just buy 10s.

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I purchased five sealed boxes years ago and busted them all. The first go round I bought three within a few days and killed it on that sub. The second batch of two not so much.

Plenty of 8's, 8.5's, 9's and 10's.

If I were you I would try and find one graded already. These cards are tougher than you would think in top grade.

There are obviously EBAY sellers that are not hip to the grading game and there are plenty of nice raw cards out there from various sets but with all black borders if they are even touched you aren't getting a 10. Most of these sellers generally do not have them stored properly and that is a huge obstacle.

I think the most I ever got for a Brock 9 was $40 so this is a new high. A 10 went for $225 if I recall and I wouldn't sell either of mine for that. I just looked and the Brock is a Pop 5 so not many graded that high so far.

[Cozumeleno]

I'm pretty torn on paying big money for newer graded 10s but I definitely prefer that to subbing and trying to come out ahead there. The biggest question mark I have is that there are so few straight auctions (at least compared to baseball), that the market seems to be all over the place.

I've got much less of a problem buying higher-graded vintage wrestling because I know it's unlikely that a ton of high-grade raw exists. But I get the feeling that there are a bunch of high-grade raw cards out there of the newer sets and people simply aren't bothering to send them in until prices are guaranteed to be higher. For example, several PSA 9 Ortons have been on eBay recently in the $20-$25 range. If I'm a seller with a bunch of raw ones, what's the point in sending them in to be graded, paying for the slab, shipping, waiting, etc. when I know I really need to get a 10 for it to be worthwhile?

I've gone up to $50 for a few RCs that I wanted and the most expensive one I bought was a Rollins 2010 MWR for $125. That was sort of an exception because it's a rarer card that predates his WWE/FCW days and I know that, even raw, there aren't a ton of them out there. I thought that was a good buy just because the pop reports aren't likely to blow up. But I'd be hesitant to spend $200-$300 on a PSA 10 card from the 2000s until there is some more established sales history. I don't really plan on selling the cards, so I am generally fine with overpaying a little. It just seems like such an undetermined market.

Do you get that sense or is it more stable in your mind?

[supplex55]

WWE has largely jumped the shark for me, but Brock has remained one of the few wrestlers that i still follow (even though i subscribe to the WWEnetwork, i rarely watch PPVs that do not feature Brock). I have enjoyed picking up some of the tough Topps Brock autographs the past several years (many of them Walmart exclusives):

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by Cozumeleno

I'm pretty torn on paying big money for newer graded 10s but I definitely prefer that to subbing and trying to come out ahead there. The biggest question mark I have is that there are so few straight auctions (at least compared to baseball), that the market seems to be all over the place.

I've got much less of a problem buying higher-graded vintage wrestling because I know it's unlikely that a ton of high-grade raw exists. But I get the feeling that there are a bunch of high-grade raw cards out there of the newer sets and people simply aren't bothering to send them in until prices are guaranteed to be higher. For example, several PSA 9 Ortons have been on eBay recently in the $20-$25 range. If I'm a seller with a bunch of raw ones, what's the point in sending them in to be graded, paying for the slab, shipping, waiting, etc. when I know I really need to get a 10 for it to be worthwhile?

I've gone up to $50 for a few RCs that I wanted and the most expensive one I bought was a Rollins 2010 MWR for $125. That was sort of an exception because it's a rarer card that predates his WWE/FCW days and I know that, even raw, there aren't a ton of them out there. I thought that was a good buy just because the pop reports aren't likely to blow up. But I'd be hesitant to spend $200-$300 on a PSA 10 card from the 2000s until there is some more established sales history. I don't really plan on selling the cards, so I am generally fine with overpaying a little. It just seems like such an undetermined market.

Do you get that sense or is it more stable in your mind?

I was the first person to sub any of the WWE Royal Rumble cards to PSA. I had no real idea on value and just thought they had good potential and would be great additions to my collection.

The wrestling card market is all over the place. I am one of the few people who will run straight auctions and unfortunately many of my cards have been flipped shortly there after for two times as much or more in a BIN. There is so little history on many of the cards in graded form that pricing is all over the place and so are sales. The only set with any somewhat established consistent values are the Wrestling All Stars and those too do better in BIN in many cases.

I have self submitted quite a few of my own cards which has been helpful in developing my collection. I love the thrill of finding raw cards and then sending them in and scoring high grades. For a few years from 09 to probably 11 I was buying just about every Wrestling All Stars card that came to market and was fortunate that graded wrestling cards were in their infancy. I hit tons of 8's, 9's and some 10's but finding super nice raw cards that make their way to EBAY now is few and far between.