The mighty flip

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bnorth

The flip is everything. At one time I had 2 insanely rare cards that there is only 5 graded. When I decided to sell one of them I got an outrageously amazing offer for one from a fellow member. He chose the beater that was highly over graded over the much nicer card in a 1 point lower slab.

The flip trumps the card almost every time.

and you were happy to sell it ....as we all would.

'Sell the flip, not the card'


Still Id rather have a PSA tell me my card is better than everyone elses (plus people will give amazing offers for) versus just the dealer telling me his card is the best....it is what it is..

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

and you were happy to sell it ....as we all would.

'Sell the flip, not the card'


Still Id rather have a PSA tell me my card is better than everyone elses (plus people will give amazing offers for) versus just the dealer telling me his card is the best....it is what it is..

I agree that it's insanity to pay multiples for an 8.5 vs. an 8, but I wouldn't be paying anything near big bucks for a card if the grading industry didn't exist. Yes, they make mistakes, etc. A lot of things in life can get a little sketchy at the fringes (home inspectors, appraisal services come to mind, not to bad mouth any board members) but I certainly wouldn't consider buying a house or an expensive piece of art without someone who knows a lot more than I do weighing in from the sidelines. And art appraisers cost a hell of a lot more than PSA or SGC do.

[Johnny630]

That 8.5 is Awful ! People are brainwashed by PSA, their registry, and pop report. Check out their add in the most recent SMR. Headings

Records are made to be Broken PSA Shatters Them

It’s a 76 Topps Baseball Set pre graded psa value $250
With the power of psa grading, your cards can do more than set records.. they can shatter them.

Oh BS come on who is gonna get 9’s and 10’s on 76 topps? The sad part is naive collectors will believe this bs hook line and sinker. Sure I’m gonna grade all my 76 Topps they’re pack fresh mint I’ve had them since 76

How many times are you gonna get cards back from psa with their infamous, I call it I don’t know so I’m gonna punt grade, min size req, or have them call cards trimmed. Not even taking into account how many they will grade improperly. It’s a fight on each and every transaction with them. Greed has destroyed this hobby.

John Marsili

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

That 8.5 is Awful ! People are brainwashed by PSA, their registry, and pop report. Check out their add in the most recent SMR. Headings

Records are made to be Broken PSA Shatters Them

It’s a 76 Topps Baseball Set pre graded psa value $250
With the power of psa grading, your cards can do more than set records.. they can shatter them.

Oh BS come on who is gonna get 9’s and 10’s on 76 topps? The sad part is naive collectors will believe this bs hook line and sinker. Sure I’m gonna grade all my 76 Topps they’re pack fresh mint I’ve had them since 76

How many times are you gonna get cards back from psa with their infamous, I call it I don’t know so I’m gonna punt grade, min size req, or have them call cards trimmed. Not even taking into account how many they will grade improperly. It’s a fight on each and every transaction with them. Greed has destroyed this hobby.

John Marsili

Just curious... what is "awful" about the 8.5?

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Just curious... what is "awful" about the 8.5?

IMO It’s awful for a 8.5. I don’t like that tilt at all, not in a 8.5, especially at that price.

[shagrotn77]

The 8.5 is both sharper and better centered than the 8, so this isn't the best example of a .5 on the flip being the only difference between 2 cards.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by shagrotn77

The 8.5 is both sharper and better centered than the 8, so this isn't the best example of a .5 on the flip being the only difference between 2 cards.

And the color is much better (unless the 8 is just enhanced) on the 8. In any case any differences are minor, would you not agree? Yet the difference in price is more than 4x. I stand by my asylum comment.