Raped by Heritage

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How hard is it to add 20 percent in your head or with a calculator? Much ado about nothing IMO.

The defense of the BP here is mind boggling...How dare anyone infringe upon your right to be ripped off!

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

The defense of the BP here is mind boggling...How dare anyone infringe upon your right to be ripped off!

How is it being ripped off if you fully know it is going to happen? If you don’t like, buy somewhere else. Plenty of non BP options out there.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by iowadoc77

How is it being ripped off if you fully know it is going to happen? If you don’t like, buy somewhere else. Plenty of non BP options out there.

Do you get this excited when you pay your taxes?

[Dewey]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Do you get this excited when you pay your taxes?

If you don't pay your taxes you go to jail or get fined.

If you don't bid on an auction...you get to go to bed before 2am.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Something is happening here but you don't know what it is.
Do you, Mr. Jones?

[mechanicalman]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Do you get this excited when you pay your taxes?

I just cut a rather large tax check, and I wasn’t particularly excited about it. But then I realized my tax dollars are needed to fund things like teaching people how to read, multiply, or the basic fundamentals of how businesses work. So it goes to a good cause.

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

I just cut a rather large tax check, and I wasn’t particularly excited about it. But then I realized my tax dollars are needed to fund things like teaching people how to read, multiply, or the basic fundamentals of how businesses work. So it goes to a good cause.

This.

[barrysloate]

The only issue I have is people who do not have to pay sales tax have a nearly one increment advantage over those who do. Since I live in NY, where sales tax is I believe 8.875%, I can't tell you how many lots I lose in Heritage by a single bid. I am the first underbiddder on a regular basis. So if the person who beat me lives in a state with no sales tax, he has a big advantage.

That said, it's the law and it is transparent. It just adds an extra hurdle for me to overcome, and can be frustrating.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

The only issue I have is people who do not have to pay sales tax have a nearly one increment advantage over those who do. Since I live in NY, where sales tax is I believe 8.875%, I can't tell you how many lots I lose in Heritage by a single bid. I am the first underbiddder on a regular basis. So if the person who beat me lives in a state with no sales tax, he has a big advantage.

That said, it's the law and it is transparent. It just adds an extra hurdle for me to overcome, and can be frustrating.

Might be time to get a po box in a state with no tax.

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

The only issue I have is people who do not have to pay sales tax have a nearly one increment advantage over those who do. Since I live in NY, where sales tax is I believe 8.875%, I can't tell you how many lots I lose in Heritage by a single bid. I am the first underbiddder on a regular basis. So if the person who beat me lives in a state with no sales tax, he has a big advantage.

That said, it's the law and it is transparent. It just adds an extra hurdle for me to overcome, and can be frustrating.

But that is only if AH is in your home state; for me I pay the PA people an extra 6%. So we have the same hurdle just with different AH's.

[joshuanip]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

I just cut a rather large tax check, and I wasn’t particularly excited about it. But then I realized my tax dollars are needed to fund things like teaching people how to read, multiply, or the basic fundamentals of how businesses work. So it goes to a good cause.

Getting off topic but I wish that was the case. A big portion of what we pay go to pensions of those who are “clocking in” their city jobs and not adding any value besides calculating how big their pension will be in 5 years.

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by joshuanip

Getting off topic but I wish that was the case. A big portion of what we pay go to pensions of those who are “clocking in” their city jobs and not adding any value besides calculating how big their pension will be in 5 years.

Also a good point, but how well tax money is used has potential to rival Frank’s monster thread!

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by iowadoc77

Also a good point, but how well tax money is used has potential to rival Frank’s monster thread!

The monster thread has generated a lack luster zero in tax revenue. Come on guys, pay up. After all, Net54 is a staunch defender of postworthy members, auction houses from Saco River to Dothan, hefty buyers premiums, exorbitant shipping costs for containers unable to withstand a nuclear blast and extortion of all types related to cardboard transactions. Yes, Net54 is the home of the cardboard bigboys. Pay the piper, or get piped.

[bozzio37]

A big part of that also goes to pensions of people who bust their asses daily for years doing sometimes awful work so the rest of us don't have to. And often for much less than they could make in the private sector (police, fire, emergency medical techs, etc.). I get your point, but please don't over generalize.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by joshuanip

Getting off topic but I wish that was the case. A big portion of what we pay go to pensions of those who are “clocking in” their city jobs and not adding any value besides calculating how big their pension will be in 5 years.

Try 4%, hardly "a big portion".

https://protectpensions.org/2016/04/...blic-pensions/

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

I just cut a rather large tax check, and I wasn’t particularly excited about it. But then I realized my tax dollars are needed to fund things like teaching people how to read, multiply, or the basic fundamentals of how businesses work. So it goes to a good cause.

Lol.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

I just cut a rather large tax check, and I wasn’t particularly excited about it. But then I realized my tax dollars are needed to fund things like teaching people how to read, multiply, or the basic fundamentals of how businesses work. So it goes to a good cause.

Looks like we need to increase funding for remedial education.

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Do you get this excited when you pay your taxes?

No I don’t. But I expect it. I pay quarterly taxes so I know what to plan on. I don’t like it but it is reality. Not much to say. Just do it.

[joshuanip]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

The defense of the BP here is mind boggling...How dare anyone infringe upon your right to be ripped off!

Now the buyers premium is deserved. Auction houses are not a free service. eBay charges the the seller and after the eBay price premium and PayPal cut... what hairs are we splitting.

That said, they come up economically the same and if buyers aren’t factoring in the buyers premium and possible taxes in an auction, then that’s the buyer’s fault!

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by joshuanip

Now the buyers premium is deserved. Auction houses are not a free service. eBay charges the the seller and after the eBay price premium and PayPal cut... what hairs are we splitting.

That said, they come up economically the same and if buyers aren’t factoring in the buyers premium and possible taxes in an auction, then that’s the buyer’s fault!

Ebay doesn't charge buyers to buy things. I get the difference in overhead costs for an auction house. So I'd sincerely like to know...Is waiving seller's fees at auction houses the norm, or reserved for the special few?

[joshuanip]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Ebay doesn't charge buyers to buy things. I get the difference in overhead costs for an auction house. So I'd sincerely like to know...Is waiving seller's fees at auction houses the norm, or reserved for the special few?

Hi Rob, the seller gets charged on eBay so he (should) mark up the card appropriately.

At the auction houses: It’s fairly common to waive the sellers fee. That is extra juice in their negotiation with your consignment. That said the more desirable cards you have the better your neg rate (sellers premium is waived and you share the buyers premium). And if you have a featured front page piece that increases your leverage to get a higher neg rate across your lots.

[pgconboy]

This entire thread and all threads like it in the future can be avoided if auction houses utilizes the provided user information they use in invoices to also display during the bidding process.
Honus Wager Bid 1,100 / Buyers Premium 1,320 / Est Final Price 1,430

[mechanicalman]

Originally Posted by pgconboy

This entire thread and all threads like it in the future can be avoided if auction houses utilizes the provided user information they use in invoices to also display during the bidding process.
Honus Wager Bid 1,100 / Buyers Premium 1,320 / Est Final Price 1,430

Yes, they could also be avoided if folks on this board possessed greater than a 6th grade education and a calculator.

[Snapolit1]

Dude doesn't bother to read the conditions of sale of the AH and all of a sudden he's been taken advantage of. Yeah, sure.

OP should stick to garage sales.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

The defense of the BP here is mind boggling...How dare anyone infringe upon your right to be ripped off!

I have a right to be ripped off? Constitutional attorneys please explain