Raped by Heritage

[Leon]

Originally Posted by jerrys

Bid + 20% fee + $20 mail + NY Tax.

Too difficult for some people to understand.

[Bliggity]

So having to pay a buyer's premium, sales tax, and shipping, which are all clearly explained in the auction rules, is equivalent to being violently sexually assaulted?

Ok, got it.

[Exhibitman]

Could not disagree more. Heritage is perhaps the most transparent AH in terms of cost. Not only do you get the buyers premium in a parenthetical when you bid, there is a shipping calculator in each listing. My invoice was $0.04 different than the calculated price I knew before I bid.

[bobbyw8469]

I agree with Adam. Heritage is one of THE MOST transparent of all the auction houses. You may not like the fees, but everything is explained to you. I have no problems with them.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I agree with Adam. Heritage is one of THE MOST transparent of all the auction houses. You may not like the fees, but everything is explained to you. I have no problems with them.

So being told you're going to be raped makes the rape better?

Not talking about Heritage here...but the industry as a whole. The buyers premium is rape. No other way to describe it. If the government imposed a 20% sales tax in this country, I wonder if you'd all be so cool with it?

What does the 20% cover? It's not doing the sellers any favors. I'm surprised more auction houses haven't taken the step of offering a greatly reduced or better yet...gasp...no buyer's premium.

And shipping charges...$15 for two pennants from a familiar auction house doesn't seem that bad....until they arrive.

I have limited experience in dealing with auction houses...maybe a half dozen purchases in the last year and a half. But so far I'm not impressed and the disappointment isn't limited to just one. Half assed-ness and mediocrity seem to be key components of the mission statement for a large part of the industry.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

So being told you're going to be raped makes the rape better?

Not talking about Heritage here...but the industry as a whole. The buyers premium is rape. No other way to describe it. If the government imposed a 20% sales tax in this country, I wonder if you'd all be so cool with it?

What does the 20% cover? It's not doing the sellers any favors. I'm surprised more auction houses haven't taken the step of offering a greatly reduced or better yet...gasp...no buyer's premium.

And shipping charges...$15 for two pennants from a familiar auction house doesn't seem that bad....until they arrive.

I have limited experience in dealing with auction houses...maybe a half dozen purchases in the last year and a half. But so far I'm not impressed and the disappointment isn't limited to just one. Half assed-ness and mediocrity seem to be key components of the mission statement for a large part of the industry.

How do you suppose auction houses stay in business without charging a buyers premium...seeing as many waive the sellers premium?

[Steve D]

Come on people!!!!!!!!!!

It is not difficult at all. You know you will be charged a 20% premium on top of your bid. Simply add the 20% to your bid, and you know what it will cost you.

Heritage even tells you when you bid, what the total will be with the buyer's premium! If you can't see that, then you have bigger problems to work on!

Steve

[Dewey]

Worthless complaint solved by paying attention. Terrible analogy. Period. Change it.

[pgconboy]

Originally Posted by Steve D

Come on people!!!!!!!!!!

It is not difficult at all. You know you will be charged a 20% premium on top of your bid. Simply add the 20% to your bid, and you know what it will cost you.

Heritage even tells you when you bid, what the total will be with the buyer's premium! If you can't see that, then you have bigger problems to work on!

Steve

That wasn't the case for me. I had a 30.21% premium.
Not hostile or anything over this, just went from feeling excited about my purchases to exceedingly ambivalent.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

How do you suppose auction houses stay in business without charging a buyers premium...seeing as many waive the sellers premium?

Really...Many waive the sellers premium? Which ones? And for what criteria?

I guess it depends on your definition of "many". But I suspect that many more aren't having their sellers fees waived. I haven't sold anything through an auction house yet, so I can't speak to that. I'd be curious to hear from those that have.

As to how to stay in business. Be excellent at what you do.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Really...Many waive the sellers premium? Which ones? And for what criteria?

I guess it depends on your definition of "many". But I suspect that many more aren't having their sellers fees waived. I haven't sold anything through an auction house yet, so I can't speak to that. I'd be curious to hear from those that have.

As to how to stay in business. Be excellent at what you do.

I have NEVER paid a sellers "fee or premium" when selling through an auction house...NEVER! Most AH's will waive these fees if your submission is somewhat significant. On the other hand I have ALWAYS paid a buyers premium...ALWAYS!

[Bliggity]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

The buyers premium is rape. No other way to describe it.

Yeah, I'm sure there is a rape survivor on an internet chat board somewhere, explaining that being raped made her feel like she had to pay a 20% buyer's premium in a baseball card auction.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Bliggity

Yeah, I'm sure there is a rape survivor on an internet chat board somewhere, explaining that being raped made her feel like she had to pay a 20% buyer's premium in a baseball card auction.

Good old overly sensitive Mr. Literal has entered the forum...box of kleenex in hand no doubt.

[Sean]

I've made three large (for me) purchases from Auction Houses. REA twice and Heritage once.... and I always knew exactly how much I was going to be paying with each bid. It's not difficult, the AHs tell you how much they charge.

But if you think that a Buyer's Premium is so unfair, stick to eBay.

[iowadoc77]

Heritage is very straight forward. Do the fees suck? Yes. But they are part of it.
Can’t imagine the words the op would have used had a multi- thousand dollar card been purchased. Very unfortunate comparison and use of words. Come on. No comparison between rape and a fee on a baseball card auction.
Eric Recker.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Good old overly sensitive Mr. Literal has entered the forum...box of kleenex in hand no doubt.

Watch out for political comments. I am guessing some conservatives thought what he did too. But regardless, let's keep politics out of here.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

So being told you're going to be raped makes the rape better?

Not talking about Heritage here...but the industry as a whole. The buyers premium is rape. No other way to describe it. If the government imposed a 20% sales tax in this country, I wonder if you'd all be so cool with it?

What does the 20% cover? It's not doing the sellers any favors. I'm surprised more auction houses haven't taken the step of offering a greatly reduced or better yet...gasp...no buyer's premium.

And shipping charges...$15 for two pennants from a familiar auction house doesn't seem that bad....until they arrive.

I have limited experience in dealing with auction houses...maybe a half dozen purchases in the last year and a half. But so far I'm not impressed and the disappointment isn't limited to just one. Half assed-ness and mediocrity seem to be key components of the mission statement for a large part of the industry.

Your knowledge of how auction houses operate seems to be the only thing half assed I see in your post. Would you show up for work or provide a service if you weren't being compensated?

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Your knowledge of how auction houses operate seems to be the only thing half assed I see in your post. Would you show up for work or provide a service if you weren't being compensated?

Grumpy old man in da house!

[ullmandds]

god I hate those damn Literals!!!!

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Grumpy old man in da house!

Not grumpy, just amazed at the ignorance shown in your response. And I'm probably young by net54 standards.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

So being told you're going to be raped makes the rape better?

Not talking about Heritage here...but the industry as a whole. The buyers premium is rape. No other way to describe it. If the government imposed a 20% sales tax in this country, I wonder if you'd all be so cool with it?

What does the 20% cover? It's not doing the sellers any favors. I'm surprised more auction houses haven't taken the step of offering a greatly reduced or better yet...gasp...no buyer's premium.

And shipping charges...$15 for two pennants from a familiar auction house doesn't seem that bad....until they arrive.

I have limited experience in dealing with auction houses...maybe a half dozen purchases in the last year and a half. But so far I'm not impressed and the disappointment isn't limited to just one. Half assed-ness and mediocrity seem to be key components of the mission statement for a large part of the industry.

Stop calling it rape, you agreed to it.