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Old 04-16-2018, 07:34 AM
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in the ebay link you posted, Leon...the front looks fake too?
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:38 AM
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in the ebay link you posted, Leon...the front looks fake too?
Can't say for sure. I have handled approximately 27 of the fake/counterfeits and none had fake fronts. All were skinned T206s with advanced inkjet printed backs. I am not an expert but couldn't tell what was done to them until it was pointed out to me. Some other very seasoned collectors also couldn't tell.
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:09 AM
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Thanks for the post, Leon. Was keen on bidding until I saw the update.
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Thanks for the post, Leon. Was keen on bidding until I saw the update.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:32 PM
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I purchased this T206 Hart from Tony on the b/s/t around 6/17/17, got it in the mail the following week around 6/23/17.

Within a week, I included the card as part of trade of T206s to Daniel for a T213-1.
Another net54 member (David F.) later purchased this SAME EXACT card (I'm assuming from Daniel) in late July or early August, except by this time the back was skinned and printed with a more expensive T213-1 back to it. David posted pictures on network54.com forum here.

Below are the before and after scans of the Frankenstein Hart ... no more than a 1 month turnaround for Daniel to turn a $30 T206 into a couple hundred T213-1. This isn't restoration or soaking or touching up a corner. This is alteration/forgery/fake with intent to deceive.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:37 PM
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Probably child's play for a man with his talents.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:45 PM
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Couple more examples of his work ...
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Old 04-22-2018, 03:10 PM
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Those are actually my cards on eBay. Jobu from here reached out to me and let me know about this thread. Unfortunately eBay won't let me cancel the listings this close to the end time, so I'll have to reach out to the buyers after the fact. I assumed these were in too bad of condition to be fake, show's what I know ...
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I purchased two about six months ago and thanks to this board, returned one immediately.
I still have the other and didn't pay a huge price so it's a nice fantasy piece.
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Thanks for the heads up Leon!
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It is amazing who all posts in these threads. Most frauds are a slam dunkin to expose, while others are more difficult ...


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You got any of them n series non sport and boxing in there?
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It is amazing who all posts in these threads. Most frauds are a slam dunkin to expose, while others are more difficult ...


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Who all?
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Who all?
Since my post seems a little vague, it was pointed at mr Dunkin.


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It is amazing who all posts in these threads. Most frauds are a slam dunkin to expose, while others are more difficult ...


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Hey Mark, I'm curious: you posted this an hour before NJ started his thread about his scam. How did you know?
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Old 04-17-2018, 05:30 AM
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The story broke in Tobacco Row (the Facebook group) a weekish ago. He sent that long piece to one of the admins and the guy who did the detective work to put it all together.
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