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Old 04-14-2018, 04:44 AM
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Well, the process is to send as a crossover submission, inside the SGC slab. PSA will evaluate it and determine what grade they believe it deserves. They then enter that into the computer and the person processing the order checks the PSA determination against the Minimum Grade you entered on your submission form. As in, if you want it crossed to PSA if it garners at least a 4.5, then you list 4.5 as the MinGrade you will accept. If for some reason PSA grades it a 4, they will return it to you still slabbed by SGC.

My advice: look at the card critically. An SGC 5.5 should have no surface wrinkles or creases, so that's a good place to start. PSA is pretty tough on corner wear, but at a PSA 5 level, all 5 corners could be nicked, but not enough to have surface creases. PSA cards grading at a 5 should have at least 85/15 front centering, which is pretty far off. It means one border can be almost 6 times the border on the opposite side of the card. Back centering of at least 90/10. If the card is miscut (meaning the card shows part of another card on the front or back), it would likely get the MC qualifier and detract approximately 2 points from the original grade.

PSA is also tough on "MINSIZREQ" meaning a card cut short from the factory, but not trimmed later, will still probably not get graded. So make sure the card is also the right size for the issue before you mail it in.

Post a picture of the card you're considering and we can give better advice if it will cross. To stay a 5.5, it needs to have some quality (usually centering) representative of a much higher grade. So if it's 45/55 centering on front, it might get a 5.5.

It's possible it could get a 6 from PSA, but I haven't heard of cards crossing higher without being cracked out.
https://www.psacard.com/resources/gradingstandards/
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Old 04-14-2018, 05:30 AM
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I have one graded by SGC at 80 (6). Maybe I should consider getting it crossed over.
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I have a small sample set but I've had far better luck with crossing SGC than Beckett.

SGC - Crossed an SGC 60 to a PSA 5

Beckett - Crossed 2 BVG 8's to a PSA 7 and 6. BVG 6 did not receive a minium grade of PSA 4.5.
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What’s wrong with an SGC 70 as it is?
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What’s wrong with an SGC 70 as it is?
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:33 AM
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My SGC to PSA crossover results so far:
1909 T51 Murad College Series Tufts College SGC 5 Crossed at PSA 5
1910 T51 Murad College Series Dickinson College-2nd Edition SGC 4.5 Crossed at PSA 4.5
1976 O-Pee-Chee 175 Ken Singleton SGC 98/10 DID NOT CROSS to PSA 10
1972 Topps 55 Archie Manning SGC 7 Crossed to PSA 7
1933 Sport Kings 38 Bobby Jones Golf Auth SGC Crossed to PSA AUTH

All the rest I've cracked out.
1952 Topps #54 Leo Kiely SGC 4 became PSA 4
1952 Topps #68 Cliff Chambers SGC 4.5 became PSA 5
1952 Topps #195 Minnie Minoso SGC 3 became PSA 3
1968 Topps #66 Casey Cox SGC 1.5 became PSA 5 (had marker on it that PSA didn't catch or give a qualifier to)
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Old 04-14-2018, 11:25 AM
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My SGC to PSA crossover results so far:
1909 T51 Murad College Series Tufts College SGC 5 Crossed at PSA 5
1910 T51 Murad College Series Dickinson College-2nd Edition SGC 4.5 Crossed at PSA 4.5
1976 O-Pee-Chee 175 Ken Singleton SGC 98/10 DID NOT CROSS to PSA 10
1972 Topps 55 Archie Manning SGC 7 Crossed to PSA 7
1933 Sport Kings 38 Bobby Jones Golf Auth SGC Crossed to PSA AUTH

All the rest I've cracked out.
1952 Topps #54 Leo Kiely SGC 4 became PSA 4
1952 Topps #68 Cliff Chambers SGC 4.5 became PSA 5
1952 Topps #195 Minnie Minoso SGC 3 became PSA 3
1968 Topps #66 Casey Cox SGC 1.5 became PSA 5 (had marker on it that PSA didn't catch or give a qualifier to)

crossing over a 30 dollar card isnt the same thing as crossing over a 500 dollar card..

i would think the low value cards are much much easier to cross over...but i have no evidence of it..i just think that a business would have no downside from taking 10 dollars from you or whatever to cross over a 20 dollar card to a point to encourage it..without watering down the grade because the card at issue could have 5000 more added to the POP and noone would complain that had the card...

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Old 04-14-2018, 07:33 AM
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*double post*
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Old 04-14-2018, 08:27 AM
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Default Crossing Sgc to psa

If you feel the card meets the criteria for a 5 it will probably cross. If you want it to cross to the 5.5 it currently has this may be more difficult as psa is fairly strict on half grades. At least for me.
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