1991 Topps

[sthoemke]

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

Are all A*B* cards rare or are there legitimate A*B* cards and it's just the A* sheet cards that have been seen with A*B* that are rare?

Arthur

All A*B* cards rare. I recently had a small quanity that quickly sold at $5 each.

The most valued A*B* card is mostly the Mark McGwire A*B* card, which seems to never turn up for sale.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Thank you, sir.

Arthur

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

If I read the A*B* article correctly, so far they've all had bold "40th Anniversary" backs.

I just pulled a faded A*B*.

Arthur

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

I'm 44 cellos in. I've pulled two different Oil Can Boyds, both versions of the Ryan RB, one pack of bold "40th Anniversary," and some other stuff. My question is, in that list is the suffix-a card always the correct and most common version?

I've also got a cello with bolds viewable through the back that I'm keeping sealed.





Arthur

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Pulled a Comstock Cubs.

[ALR-bishop]

Now Arthur if you can pull an 88 Comstock Yellow Name from these 91 packs you will have a $ card

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

I'm 44 cellos in. I've pulled two different Oil Can Boyds, both versions of the Ryan RB, one pack of bold "40th Anniversary," and some other stuff. My question is, in that list is the suffix-a card always the correct and most common version?

I've also got a cello with bolds viewable through the back that I'm keeping sealed.





Arthur

Arthur,

When they make corrections to the "A" sheet, they put an "*" at the bottom of the card on the reverse by the copyright logo. I am not sure how the A*B* comes about but I suspect the card was originally on the "A" sheet and then moved to the "B" sheet along with other changes.....just guessing on that though.

So the latest corrections should all be on a sheet with a "*" on it.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Thanks for responding. I should have been more articulate. I was referring to the junkwaxgems list. It's broken down by versions, like:

#146a 70 runs in 1982
#146b 20 runs in 1982

I'm assuming that in all of these instances the "a" card is the correct version and the most common?

Arthur

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

Arthur,

When they make corrections to the "A" sheet, they put an "*" at the bottom of the card on the reverse by the copyright logo. I am not sure how the A*B* comes about but I suspect the card was originally on the "A" sheet and then moved to the "B" sheet along with other changes.....just guessing on that though.

So the latest corrections should all be on a sheet with a "*" on it.

I've heard that before, but only fairly recently.
The cards are printed on a double size sheet, 264 cards. A and B, C and D, E and F.
Usually there's only one sheet indicator, and it very nearly always has the asterix. I can't recall seeing one without it in decades.
If you notice, the A is always spaced out from the copyright when it's by itself. That's most likely from them using a pasteup that included both sheet letters, either on the original art, or on the mask. Then the one that wasn't needed was blocked out. Except for some reason in 1991 they missed it on a lot of cards.
(There are exceptions, like the year they offered a few cards for a small payment and some wrappers to help people finish sets. There was enough demand for stars that they made a special sheet)

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Can someone back me up on #477 Mike Fetters?

Seems like there are versions where the banner finished in white and where his arm covers it. Also versions where the bottom of the last 'L' in Baseball is visible and versions where it's not.

Arthur

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by steve B

(There are exceptions, like the year they offered a few cards for a small payment and some wrappers to help people finish sets. There was enough demand for stars that they made a special sheet)

That was 1984 and I guarantee you most people who took advantage of that offer bought Mattingly and Strawberry and Boggs and Sandberg, etc.

A few people did order what was needed but most ordered the stars noted

Rich

[sthoemke]

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

If I read the A*B* article correctly, so far they've all had bold "40th Anniversary" backs.

I just pulled a faded A*B*.

Arthur

All of the A*B* cards should all have bold "40th Anniversary" backs.

I think you might have a Tiffany card, which does have a faded A*B* back. It was probably inserted into a pack by mistake. See link:

https://www.comc.com/Cards/Baseball/...Boston/1984187

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

No, I'm quite familiar with Tiffany cards. I've been ripping those sets for a while now. This is a regular Topps card with the faded back and A*B*.

ETA: I just noticed my scanner blew it out for some reason and made it appear white. It's not. I'll try and get a better back scan.

ETA2: This should be better.





Arthur

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

I'm 96 cellos in. Finally pulled a Mattingly 10 hits. Still nothing on the Whiten/Hoiles front but I think I've pulled many of the other variations. I'm surprised Topps went crazy over fixing the Whiten and Boyd cards and yet let these go.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

It's a little tougher to see in the scan than in person but the mark and glove laces are definitely green. Is this a new variation or a misunderstanding of the existing?



Arthur

[sthoemke]

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

No, I'm quite familiar with Tiffany cards. I've been ripping those sets for a while now. This is a regular Topps card with the faded back and A*B*.

...

Arthur

The faded logo A*B* seemed strange, so I had to check my files.

The #83 Daryl Boston A*B*/faded logo isn't rare. You can find it in the mass-produced 1991 Topps Factory Set.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Oh that makes sense. You should probably notate that somewhere so someone doesn't get taken for a ride thinking that it's rare. Also, the Tracy Jones E*F* isn't on your list either. Again, that may not be rare but it should be notated.

Arthur