1958 Topps Master Set

[insidethewrapper]

Avalande 2006 - Don't worry about all the print variations. These are never listed as legitimate variations, merely print or ink variations. If I see a big dot on a card I usually throw it out , these cards were always considered damaged ( lower condition) by my customers when I was a full time dealer.

I've been collecting since the 1950's and a 1958 Topps Master Set would be considered complete "by most" at 535. Basic set is 494 + 33 color variations + 4 Team Checklists ( alpha or Numberical # 377,397,408 and 428 ) + Herrera correction/error and # 13 Hoeft (also a "orange" triangle variation by foot ) ( which are the only print variations in this set the hobby has accepted over time) + contest card + felt emblem Insert card ). That's 535. Plus a Wrapper would be nice to finish off the set !!!! Let us know if you get to this level !!! Good Luck Collecting ! The 1958 Set was my first complete set as a kid !

Note: I don't believe a stray dot here or there on a card will ever be listed in any price guide I know of. Please advise if wrong, I didn't stay at an Holiday Inn Express recently.

[bradmar48]

I've alway felt that the total was 535. You have 494 regular + 33 Yellow +
4 Team Checklist Numberical + contest card + felt elbum insert + Herrera error and card #13 Hoeft with white name and Red triangle.The card is not a print error (dot,missing color) but an example of how the card was printed during the run between the yellow and white name versions.

[insidethewrapper]

Keith: You are right, I forgot completely about the Hoeft card. 535 is good with me. I was just editing my post when you found my omission. Thanks

[avalanche2006]

So I have the Hoeft with white letters and yellow triangle.
Which version am I lacking for the set?

[bradmar48]

Cards #13 Comes in 3 versions
(1) Hoeft name Yellow with Red triangle to the right of the Tigers emblem
(2) Hoeft name White with a yellow triangle
(3) The rarest Hoeft name White with a Red triangle

There are photos of all 3 versions earlier in this thread

[avalanche2006]

Originally Posted by bradmar48

Cards #13 Comes in 3 versions
(1) Hoeft name Yellow with Red triangle to the right of the Tigers emblem
(2) Hoeft name White with a yellow triangle
(3) The rarest Hoeft name White with a Red triangle

There are photos of all 3 versions earlier in this thread

So the one I have is the regular version with the white name/red triangle being card 535 in the set?

[ALR-bishop]

Mike -- what is your definition of a true variation ? Would it include the 58 Herrer, the 57 Bakep, the 52 Campos Black Star, the 67 Moeller white streak, the 61 Fairly green in the ball on the back ?

Do you know one when you see one or rely on someone else to tell you what are true variations . No offense intended , who would have thought the 61 Fairly would be a recognized variation. Would the Herrer and Bakep make the cut post Internet ? Should there be a hobby accepted definition of a variation ? Collect what you like . I do. Hobby recognition does drive value, but is the 61 Fairly a print dot in your view ?

[1963Topps Set]

Could someone please post scans of the 1958 Topps contest cards? I don’t believe I have ever seen them, thanks.

[1963Topps Set]

I have seen July 8, but not June 30.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Avalande 2006 - Don't worry about all the print variations. These are never listed as legitimate variations, merely print or ink variations. If I see a big dot on a card I usually throw it out , these cards were always considered damaged ( lower condition) by my customers when I was a full time dealer.

I've been collecting since the 1950's and a 1958 Topps Master Set would be considered complete "by most" at 535. Basic set is 494 + 33 color variations + 4 Team Checklists ( alpha or Numberical # 377,397,408 and 428 ) + Herrera correction/error and # 13 Hoeft (also a "orange" triangle variation by foot ) ( which are the only print variations in this set the hobby has accepted over time) + contest card + felt emblem Insert card ). That's 535. Plus a Wrapper would be nice to finish off the set !!!! Let us know if you get to this level !!! Good Luck Collecting ! The 1958 Set was my first complete set as a kid !

Note: I don't believe a stray dot here or there on a card will ever be listed in any price guide I know of. Please advise if wrong, I didn't stay at an Holiday Inn Express recently.

Wish I was one of your customers with access to your garbage can. I agree with your description of them not being real variations but I am one of many that collect print errors.

Here are a couple of my favorite 58's. Both have had some "work" done to them.